Lt. gov. and House debates, Sanders endorses Janoo

Uh, I wanna start, uh, Kevin McCallum talking about this interesting debate that we had recently between lieutenant governor candidates.

You know, this is Vermont.

I joked last week on the show about we don't really get nasty here.

We don't really do that.

But things did get a little personal, uh, and they have been getting personal.

Let's, uh, hear this exchange, uh, from that debate recently this week.

Your family farm was at the center of serious labor violations around its treatment of H-2A migrant workers.

Why did you not speak out against the mistreatment of migrant workers on your family farm, and did you use your influence to direct the investigation?

Wow.

Um, you know, John, seems like kind of a new, [laughs] a new low here.

I guess I'll say this.

Vermonters have a chance in this election to really think about the type of leadership they want in the state.

When I think about what we see nationally right now, I think about what I want for my kids.

I don't want a self-serving, self-interested bully who not only bullies his town and fails to follow the laws that he helped create.

You know, I don't want that in Washington.

I definitely don't want that in this state.

Okay, so, you know, a little bit cringey there, I would say, you know, especially for Vermont.

But I wanna ask you this, uh, Kevin, because I feel like anybody who hasn't been paying attention to this race maybe doesn't know Vermont politics too well, might sort of see that exchange and think initially, just not knowing the context, wow, uh, Molly Gray didn't quite answer John Rogers' question there about her family farm.

Give us some context.

What is going on there?

Sure.

Well, I think the broader context here is that it represents a pretty dramatic escalation in the negativity of this campaign that we've been seeing building over the last several weeks.

It was a fairly, uh, tame affair for the first few weeks, uh, uh, uh, and months of the campaign.

Um, uh, but then we started to see these instances where, where John Rogers was taking some personal shots at Molly Gray.

And I first noticed it when the Tunbridge Fair video started to circulate, wherein he was criticizing her for writing the obituary of Vermont Dairy, which is of course not true.

Uh, I wanna start, uh, Kevin McCallum talking about this interesting debate that we had recently between lieutenant governor candidates.

You know, this is Vermont.

I joked last week on the show about we don't really get nasty here.

We don't really do that.

But things did get a little personal, uh, and they have been getting personal.

Let's, uh, hear this exchange, uh, from that debate recently this week.

Your family farm was at the center of serious labor violations around its treatment of H-2A migrant workers.

Why did you not speak out against the mistreatment of migrant workers on your family farm, and did you use your influence to direct the investigation?

Wow.

Um, you know, John, seems like kind of a new, [laughs] a new low here.

I guess I'll say this.

Vermonters have a chance in this election to really think about the type of leadership they want in the state.

When I think about what we see nationally right now, I think about what I want for my kids.

I don't want a self-serving, self-interested bully who not only bullies his town and fails to follow the laws that he helped create.

You know, I don't want that in Washington.

I definitely don't want that in this state.

Okay, so, you know, a little bit cringey there, I would say, you know, especially for Vermont.

But I wanna ask you this, uh, Kevin, because I feel like anybody who hasn't been paying attention to this race maybe doesn't know Vermont politics too well, might sort of see that exchange and think initially, just not knowing the context, wow, uh, Molly Gray didn't quite answer John Rogers' question there about her family farm.

Give us some context.

What is going on there?

Sure.

Well, I think the broader context here is that it represents a pretty dramatic escalation in the negativity of this campaign that we've been seeing building over the last several weeks.

It was a fairly, uh, tame affair for the first few weeks, uh, uh, uh, and months of the campaign.

Um, uh, but then we started to see these instances where, where John Rogers was taking some personal shots at Molly Gray.

And I first noticed it when the Tunbridge Fair video started to circulate, wherein he was criticizing her for writing the obituary of Vermont Dairy, which is of course not true.