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Hey, guys.

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I'm going to bring my guest to the stage in a second.

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I have a legend with me today, and I'm really honored every time he comes on my show.

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Joining me today is acclaimed filmmaker, author, researcher, and former director of content at Gaia J. Widener.

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He's known for creating and producing Cosmic Disclosure, Wisdom Teachings, Deep Space, Hollywood Decoded, numerous acclaimed documentaries on Stanley Kubrick, Alchemy, Ancient Mysteries, and Consciousness.

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Jay has spent decades researching hidden history and the deeper patterns shaping our world.

Robert KalilHost3:16

Tonight we'll discuss the billionaires buying up farmland and food production, current events and global trends, the current state of UFO disclosure, behind the scenes at Guy TV, cosmic disclosures, Stanley Kubrick and hidden symbolism, ancient mysteries and alchemy, secret societies and where humanity may be headed next so we'll kind of jump over you know but i know jay wants to cover the the food thing but it's it's important so um and uh a little bit more about my guest jade weidner is an internationally recognized filmmaker author researcher and lecturer lecture whose work is towards alchemy heretic hermetic philosophy hidden history ancient civilizations symbolism and consciousness called an authority on the hermetic and alchemical traditions by wired magazine jay has written directed and produced numerous acclaimed documentaries on kubrick's odyssey beyond the infinite infinity the ultimate trip the last avatar Secrets of Alchemy, and JFKX.

Robert KalilHost4:10

He formerly served as the director for Content at Gaia, where he helped develop original series, as I said, including Cosmic Disclosure, Wisdom Teachings, and others.

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Throughout his career, he's appeared on History Channel, Coast to Coast AM, Room 237, Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory, and many of the leading media platforms.

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And I'm bringing him to the stage now.

Robert KalilHost4:32

Jay, thanks so much for coming back on, man.

Robert KalilHost4:34

How are you?

Jay WeidnerGuest4:35

Hey, pretty good.

Jay WeidnerGuest4:36

Thanks for inviting me.

Robert KalilHost4:38

Yeah.

Robert KalilHost4:39

Um, so, uh, I guess we kind of, we were going to get into current events today and what's, what's going on.

Robert KalilHost4:44

Uh, you, you noticed something, you said that the billionaires are buying up the food and then they're, they're also destroying it.

Robert KalilHost4:51

What's going on with that from what you were able to hear? Like,

Jay WeidnerGuest4:55

uh, well, you know, you have to understand a billionaire is mind.

Jay WeidnerGuest4:59

And unfortunately I've known a couple of billionaires.

Jay WeidnerGuest5:01

I know how they think.

Jay WeidnerGuest5:03

And, um, um, And so everything in their mind is just math, right? They're just always doing math.

Jay WeidnerGuest5:11

If I buy this company and I change it around, redo it, you know, I'll make a bunch of money, right? And that's how they view the whole world.

Jay WeidnerGuest5:21

And unfortunately, in the last 20 years or so, they kind of focused on venerable, well-known, family-owned food companies.

Jay WeidnerGuest5:32

like uh french's and um hellman's and these long tradition i think french french has been around since like 1880 or something so these long traditions of of you know knowing this product and it was always a good product and then you start realizing that hey

the

Jay WeidnerGuest5:54

hellman's mayonnaise went from four ingredients to 30 ingredients right and then you start realizing when you look up the ingredients that There's all chemicals.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:05

And in fact, a lot of it is industrial waste that they don't know what to do with and sawdust.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:14

And so that's one of the reasons we're getting more obese and getting sicker all the time is because our food quality is just dive bombing down.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:23

And I really don't know what to do about it.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:26

I buy carefully and I don't care if it costs much, but I know poor people do.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:33

And, you know, I grow my own food now and that's really good.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:37

I highly encourage everybody to do that.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:40

But we're going to have to find a way around this because it's just going to It's just going to get worse.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:46

And every day they buy more companies every day.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:51

And some companies are smart.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:53

They say, no, you can't change the ingredients ever.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:55

You're going to buy my company.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:57

But most don't.

Jay WeidnerGuest6:58

And so we're getting our food is getting replaced by real food with absolute crap.

Jay WeidnerGuest7:05

And it's going to affect all of us if we don't do something about it.

Robert KalilHost7:10

Wow.

Robert KalilHost7:10

Do you think this ties into a larger like 2030 agenda or something like the, like the board economic forum we hear about and stuff like that?

Jay WeidnerGuest7:19

Yeah, I think they want to keep us permanently sick.

Jay WeidnerGuest7:21

When the, um, when the, uh, moguls took over India, the first thing they did was outlaw eating cows.

Jay WeidnerGuest7:29

All right.

Jay WeidnerGuest7:30

And so they outlawed eating cows.

Jay WeidnerGuest7:32

Why? Well, because, uh, lack of protein makes you weak.

Jay WeidnerGuest7:37

They wanted the Indian people weak.

Jay WeidnerGuest7:39

they got weak and never rebelled against the moguls ever and uh so i think that's the plan is to keep us in a weakened condition but still alive and um i mean there's fewer cows in america right now than there has been ever this is the i mean not ever since like 1900 and uh uh there Now there's these ticks that are biting people and making them allergic to eating red meat.

Jay WeidnerGuest8:12

And believe me, you know, Your delivery system of protein that you eat is seriously important.

Jay WeidnerGuest8:22

And they're kind of removing all the delivery systems for getting high quality protein, unless you're a millionaire.

Jay WeidnerGuest8:30

And I think this is all being done on purpose.

Jay WeidnerGuest8:34

And I think we need to do something about it, but I don't know what to do.

Robert KalilHost8:40

Yeah.

Robert KalilHost8:43

You mentioned concerns about the billionaires buying the food.

Robert KalilHost8:45

What trends are you watching most closely? Are you seeing the big companies being bought out, like some that you just named and more? Yeah, that's what's going on.

Robert KalilHost8:54

They're buying up

Jay WeidnerGuest8:55

everything.

Jay WeidnerGuest8:57

The billionaire class, in my view, they must have a secret meeting or they're all on the same email exchange or something.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:06

I'm being serious when I say this.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:09

Their plan is to buy everything.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:14

That's their plan.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:16

Their plan is to buy everything.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:18

Real estate, houses, private houses so they can rent them.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:23

All the farmland, all the food.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:26

And that's to control us.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:29

This is what the data centers are.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:31

This is what the flock cameras are.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:34

This is all part of this network that we're putting together that we can't stop.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:39

The final battle, the hill that we have to die on, actually, will be digital currency.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:48

That's the final battle that we're going towards.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:51

They're going to keep this going, though.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:53

And it's a plan.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:55

It's a plan by the billionaire class.

Jay WeidnerGuest9:56

The billionaire class wants to turn our planet into a resort for them.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:02

So they can fly anywhere they want to fly.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:04

They can eat any kind of food they want to eat.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:06

They can go anywhere they want to go and they want us gone.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:09

And then they're going to replace us with robots and AI.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:15

And that's where they're going.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:16

They're working overtime on it.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:18

They're spending gazillions of dollars on this research.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:23

They really want the robots because they don't trust us.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:26

They've had their meeting and they know that when the STHF happens, their guards, their maids, their servants, they're going to be eyeing them.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:42

Guards are going to, you know...

Jay WeidnerGuest10:44

Why should I work for this guy, right? The world's ending.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:49

I'll just take him out right now and steal everything he's got, right? And I think that's where they started thinking this through.

Jay WeidnerGuest10:56

Oh, my God, we're not safe anywhere, you know, and they're not.

Jay WeidnerGuest11:01

But if they have robots, yeah.

Jay WeidnerGuest11:03

So I think that's why they're madly headed towards this outcome.

Jay WeidnerGuest11:08

And it should concern all of us because we're all going to be affected by it.

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Robert KalilHost11:43

yeah yeah um there was a comment in the chat this is i just want to get your opinion on this this is from sleeping giant and i'm not discrediting what he says i just want to read what he says he says the canadian truckers convoy was a a uh uh discreet and covert military attention to slay the cabal and everything went off without a hitch i i'm not discrediting this what this guy says but i i don't think that's i think they're still out there you know what i mean i think they're still controlling us you know i mean what what would you

Jay WeidnerGuest12:14

I think they've given up trying to control us.

Jay WeidnerGuest12:16

I think after COVID, they realized that, you know, not the majority, but a large group of people saw through the bullshit.

Jay WeidnerGuest12:25

And I think so they, it was kind of like they went, that's it.

Jay WeidnerGuest12:29

We're done.

Jay WeidnerGuest12:30

We're done.

Jay WeidnerGuest12:31

We want to rule them.

Jay WeidnerGuest12:33

We're the wisest, most intelligent people on the planet.

Jay WeidnerGuest12:37

And they don't want us to rule them.

Jay WeidnerGuest12:39

So therefore we have to do the next step.

Jay WeidnerGuest12:42

And the next step is the calling, I guess you would call it.

Jay WeidnerGuest12:47

And that would be to, um, you know, spread diseases everywhere and ruin the food supply and create as much crime as possible and as much chaos as possible.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:03

And then they think they're going to run away to their bunkers.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:06

And they have their bunkers all over Wyoming, primarily where their bunkers are, some outside of Jackson Hole, but all over western Wyoming.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:15

There's these giant billionaire survival camps.

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where you have to be invited to go.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:21

You can't just walk in and say, hey, I want to buy a house here or whatever.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:25

You have to be invited.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:26

It's invite only.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:28

And they're all getting ready for the lockdown, something.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:32

They're getting ready for something.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:33

And it has to do with their, I think they're going to make their move soon.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:37

I think that They know that time is running out.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:40

If they don't make their move soon, they're never going to make it.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:44

The problem is the robots are not coming out as quickly as they thought they would.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:48

So they don't have these hijacked robots are just stupid.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:53

Sorry, they're just stupid.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:55

They attack people.

Jay WeidnerGuest13:56

They...

Jay WeidnerGuest13:59

They're uncontrollable.

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AI is stupid.

Jay WeidnerGuest14:02

AI hallucinates.

Jay WeidnerGuest14:04

I've had sessions with AI where they just told me absolute bunk.

Jay WeidnerGuest14:08

And it took me an hour and a half to prove to the AI that what you just told me was bugged.

Jay WeidnerGuest14:12

So even the AI is just

Robert KalilHost14:13

like...

Robert KalilHost14:16

I've experienced that with ChatGPT, too.

Robert KalilHost14:18

Like, AI acts very stupid.

Robert KalilHost14:21

Like, it doesn't remember...

Robert KalilHost14:22

Like, for it to be this all-knowing, somewhat sentient thing that people are claiming, like, it's definitely not.

Robert KalilHost14:29

It definitely forgets things.

Robert KalilHost14:31

It definitely can't, like...

Robert KalilHost14:32

You know, it's almost like an immature kid, almost.

Robert KalilHost14:36

You know, it seems like to me.

Jay WeidnerGuest14:38

it's a great way to put it i uh i got in an argument about is it possible to take um uh ectochrome film up on the surface of the moon and take photographs with a camera that does not have any lead shielding which is exactly what apollo was who had the house of blood did not have any lead shielding there was not no special film or anything just regular ectochrome and uh And the AI goes, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, you can take pictures on the moon.

Jay WeidnerGuest15:06

I said, well, okay, well, over here, it says that the surface of the moon is filled with synchrotron radiation and gamma rays and bouncing off of it.

Jay WeidnerGuest15:15

How can you take film in such an environment? It took me two hours for it to finally say, you're right, you can't take pictures on the moon.

Jay WeidnerGuest15:23

So, you know, and I know my shit, and I still couldn't get that thing talked into it.

Jay WeidnerGuest15:30

So I...

Jay WeidnerGuest15:32

Yeah, I don't have a whole lot of hope for AI or robots.

Jay WeidnerGuest15:35

Maybe in the future.

Jay WeidnerGuest15:37

You

Robert KalilHost15:38

know what I heard the other day? I heard that the first – my friend told me the first flying car is due to come out.

Robert KalilHost15:44

And I couldn't believe this.

Robert KalilHost15:45

My friend Liz, she called me the other night.

Robert KalilHost15:47

I got to touch base with her.

Robert KalilHost15:48

She's like a techie, you know.

Robert KalilHost15:50

And she said – I couldn't believe this, Jay.

Robert KalilHost15:52

She said the first flying car is supposed to be out, and it's supposed to be like $300,000.

Robert KalilHost15:56

And I said to her, I said, well, is that going to run on like anti-grab technology or – Is that going to have propellers or like, you know, because like it doesn't seem like I don't even know what that would run on.

Robert KalilHost16:09

Have you heard anything about this or like?

Jay WeidnerGuest16:11

Well, there's those the Jetsons.

Jay WeidnerGuest16:13

Have you seen them? Yeah.

Jay WeidnerGuest16:16

Flying with the wing.

Jay WeidnerGuest16:17

We have the spinning blades and you can I think they go up like a couple of hundred feet and they can go at about 50 miles an hour on about 100 miles on a single charge, I think.

Jay WeidnerGuest16:27

But so those are out.

Jay WeidnerGuest16:28

Those are one hundred and twenty thousand, I think.

Jay WeidnerGuest16:32

Um, so I think that's, I don't think it's going to be any anti-gravity.

Jay WeidnerGuest16:35

It'll probably be, uh, those new, you know, like a drone, but I would say that we're very close to, um, anti-gravity being released.

Robert KalilHost16:47

Yeah.

Robert KalilHost16:47

Yeah.

Robert KalilHost16:48

I

Jay WeidnerGuest16:49

mean, how do you think the plot, what, what, what powers of flying saucers? Everybody photographs gas in their tank.

Jay WeidnerGuest16:57

I mean, what has to be, has to be a zero point energy.

Robert KalilHost17:01

Do you think that's what a lot of people are working on? And I'm not saying this is what happened to David Wilcock, but it could be a lot of these scientists are working on that are disappearing and stuff like that?

Jay WeidnerGuest17:12

It's not free energy.

Jay WeidnerGuest17:14

They're working on plasma, plasma physics.

Jay WeidnerGuest17:18

So once you understand that most UFOs are actually plasma, solid plasma, and so a bunch of those guys were looking into UFOs, And then two or three were plasma scientists, including that guy from Princeton, who was one of the top plasma physicists in the world.

Jay WeidnerGuest17:38

And then there's a strange case of a woman in Los Alamos who went out to the desert and she didn't shoot herself.

Jay WeidnerGuest17:46

She just died out in the desert.

Jay WeidnerGuest17:47

And you got to wonder what she overheard or whatever, right? Working at Los Alamos.

Jay WeidnerGuest17:53

So what they're doing is...

Jay WeidnerGuest17:58

They're simultaneously hiding the plasma universe from us while their scientists are only working on plasma physics.

Jay WeidnerGuest18:09

They want plasma guns.

Jay WeidnerGuest18:10

They want plasma everything.

Jay WeidnerGuest18:13

And they already have free energy.

Jay WeidnerGuest18:15

It's a given.

Jay WeidnerGuest18:16

And that's the number one thing that they're trying to hide, plasma and free energy, which are closely related.

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Robert KalilHost18:55

yeah that makes me come think of my next question like you know like we we've gotten um four they call them they're calling them tranches for some reason like i think that's what the guy on space dot radio called it basically four uh unloads of ufo docs but it's crazy jay like you know we covered it on my channel like some of the stuff they're shown is so remedial it's not even like it's not even good ufo footage and it seems like it's almost like the Some of it is just artist renditions or artist recreations.

Robert KalilHost19:29

It's like, have you looked at any of this? Do you think this whole disclosure stuff is like a psyop or what do you think it is?

Jay WeidnerGuest19:36

It's a psyop.

Jay WeidnerGuest19:38

I will say that they did show a lot of the UFOs they showed were plasma.

Jay WeidnerGuest19:43

They weren't hard objects.

Jay WeidnerGuest19:44

They were plasma.

Jay WeidnerGuest19:46

And I think that that's what they're headed towards.

Jay WeidnerGuest19:51

So in February 2024... a report by 20 different scientists from biologists to astrophysicists put out a multi-page report saying that there were plasma living plasma entities in our atmosphere and they've been videotaped and filmed and photographed hundreds of times and he showed all the videos and hundreds of photographs that there are and They show predatory nature.

Jay WeidnerGuest20:23

They show curiosity.

Jay WeidnerGuest20:24

They show sentience.

Jay WeidnerGuest20:26

They chase each other around.

Jay WeidnerGuest20:28

And then in October 24, they put out a second report, the same group, in which they warned airlines to be very careful because you could hit one of these things.

Jay WeidnerGuest20:40

They fly around at really fast speeds and can take right angle turns and All sorts of stuff.

Jay WeidnerGuest20:46

So we've already have two scientific papers admitting that there's non-biological intelligent sentient life here on earth.

Jay WeidnerGuest20:58

And right after the October report came out in 24, that's when all the plasma sightings were in New Jersey.

Jay WeidnerGuest21:08

Remember there was like hundreds of them that, and I think that, I think that they're getting us ready to understand that there's a form of life that is actually quite interested in us and is worried that we're destroying their planet and is, I think, about to make contact with us.

Jay WeidnerGuest21:31

Or they already have.

Jay WeidnerGuest21:35

This subject just goes really deep because it has to do with MKUltra and the GATE program.

Jay WeidnerGuest21:44

And all these different things are all working together to try to understand this other intelligence.

Robert KalilHost21:54

Yeah, I would say that.

Robert KalilHost21:55

I would say that the people they've brought through the MKUltra program, that they've raised up the GATE program, they're testing for psionics because it seems like, or from what I hear, that people who are able to communicate with these craft, that these craft are sentient.

Robert KalilHost22:11

They have intelligence.

Robert KalilHost22:12

So they feel like the people that are psionic can communicate with the craft, right? Yeah.

Jay WeidnerGuest22:17

yeah, that's the ultimate goal.

Jay WeidnerGuest22:19

I believe of the gate program to find psych, psychic kids, uh, put them through the program, possibly trauma-based mind control is involved.

Jay WeidnerGuest22:29

We don't know.

Jay WeidnerGuest22:31

And then the ones that, um, then they populate the elites with these psychic kids.

Jay WeidnerGuest22:38

But the real purpose is to communicate with the, um, non biological intelligence.

Jay WeidnerGuest22:44

I believe that's what I've heard from many survivors that in the end, they were taken out and shown these orbs and asked to communicate with them.

Jay WeidnerGuest22:55

And the orbs did communicate.

Robert KalilHost22:58

Wow, wow.

Robert KalilHost23:01

And going on to Kubrick a little bit, I don't know if anybody's asked you this, or I'm sure somebody's asked you this somewhere, but with everything with the release of the Epstein files and everything, do you think it sheds new light on what Kubrick was trying to accomplish with Eyes Wide Shut? And do you think Kubrick was exposed to something, a darker side of Hollywood that he saw when he was making Eyes Wide Shut that inevitably might have...

Robert KalilHost23:27

possibly made his end? Sorry, a lot of questions there.

Jay WeidnerGuest23:31

I think that when he showed the film to the Warner Brothers executives in London in early 1999, they flipped out.

Jay WeidnerGuest23:50

I know someone that was in the lobby that heard the commotion through the closed doors.

Jay WeidnerGuest23:56

um and he told me that uh they were screaming and yelling and kubrick said the only thing they could actually hear kubrick said because he was screaming was that uh i have i have a contract that says you can't touch my stuff you're not touching my film and then uh five days later he died and um And so the film came out, and they rearranged it.

Jay WeidnerGuest24:22

Clearly, they cut it.

Jay WeidnerGuest24:23

If you know anything about continuity, there's a lot of continuity errors in the film.

Jay WeidnerGuest24:27

The cubing was never allowed.

Jay WeidnerGuest24:29

And so it was quite obvious to me that the film had been cut.

Jay WeidnerGuest24:33

Like, maybe 20 minutes had been taken out.

Jay WeidnerGuest24:36

And I lobbied Warner Brothers to put out the uncut version.

Jay WeidnerGuest24:41

And then they say they did, but they really didn't.

Jay WeidnerGuest24:44

It was the same film with a couple little changes.

Jay WeidnerGuest24:49

And so I got curious about the film and I started watching it.

Jay WeidnerGuest24:52

And I realized that there's two guys in the film that don't have any lines at all.

Jay WeidnerGuest25:02

They're all throughout the film.

Jay WeidnerGuest25:04

I call them I and O. They're both bald.

Jay WeidnerGuest25:07

One is tall and skinny and the other one is short.

Jay WeidnerGuest25:11

and overweight.

Jay WeidnerGuest25:12

They both wear glasses and they're at crucial spots throughout the film.

Jay WeidnerGuest25:18

So when Sidney Pollack takes Tom Cruise up to check on the girl that had the drug overdose in the bathroom, they have to walk up these spiral stairs and they walk right past these two guys who are sitting at the table.

Jay WeidnerGuest25:35

And clearly they are the guards.

Jay WeidnerGuest25:38

for anyone trying to go up the stairs.

Jay WeidnerGuest25:40

Make sure that nobody can go up the stairs, right? And then later, when Tom Cruise finally gets to the orgy and he's coming through the front door, there they are again.

Jay WeidnerGuest25:52

And they're taking the password, right? And then the short ball guy is the one that hands Tom Cruise the note that says, quit snooping around, right? And then the tall skinny guy is the guy that's following Tom Cruise around through what is supposed to be New York.

Jay WeidnerGuest26:14

And at the very end of the movie, Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman and their daughter, I think her name was Alice, they're in like a Macy's at Christmas time shopping.

Jay WeidnerGuest26:27

So

I guess,

Jay WeidnerGuest26:27

I don't know what they're doing.

Jay WeidnerGuest26:29

Anyway, the little girl's running around and Nicole says, watch out there, be careful.

Jay WeidnerGuest26:34

And they're very, you know, very cognizant of their daughter.

Jay WeidnerGuest26:38

Their daughter walks past a black baby carriage, which is right out of Rosemary's Baby.

Jay WeidnerGuest26:45

The poster for Rosemary's Baby showed a black baby cherry with a hood over it.

Jay WeidnerGuest26:50

And that's exactly what she walks past.

Jay WeidnerGuest26:52

Then she walks in between an aisle where teddy bears are like menacingly reaching out for her, right? And teddy bears are the pedophile symbol, I guess.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:06

And then...

Jay WeidnerGuest27:10

They get to this aisle, and there's the two guys, I and O. They're at the end of the aisle looking like they're shopping.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:17

Tom pushes the girl forward.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:20

She reluctantly moves forward.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:21

She looks back at Tom Cruise like, do I really have to do this, Dad? And he pushes her gently again.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:27

And then Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman completely forget about their daughter, and they begin this long five-minute conversation.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:35

That is just a strange conversation.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:38

And so Tom says, well, what do we do now? And she says, I don't know.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:43

He says, well, we're going to have to carry this forever.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:49

And she says, oh, no, don't use that word.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:51

Don't use that word forever.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:52

That word scares me.

Jay WeidnerGuest27:53

And then he says, well, and then she says, there's really only one last thing we can do.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:01

And Tom goes, what's that? And she drops the F-bomb, four-letter word, right? Why is the only thing left to do is to have sex with each other? Because they just gave their daughter away.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:16

That's what just happened in front of our eyes.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:18

They gave their daughter to these two men.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:21

And they forgot about her.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:23

Now they're worried about what they're going to do next.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:25

And there's only one thing they can do.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:26

Have another kid.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:28

Right? That's the ending of the movie.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:30

And nobody sees this ever.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:34

And It's actually brilliant because it went right over the heads of Warner Brothers.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:39

They never saw.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:40

They never saw the two guys or what they were doing.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:43

They never caught the connection.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:45

And it was just brilliant.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:48

And so the reason they had to give the daughter away is because when Tom Cruise got caught at the party, right, he had to take his mask off.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:58

Right.

Jay WeidnerGuest28:59

That girl that he saved in the bathroom at Sidney Pollack's house earlier, she gets up on a thing and says, I will sacrifice myself for him.

Jay WeidnerGuest29:10

Right.

Jay WeidnerGuest29:11

That's what she says.

Jay WeidnerGuest29:12

And so he gets to go free because she sacrificed herself for him because he saved her life earlier.

Jay WeidnerGuest29:18

Right.

Jay WeidnerGuest29:19

Well, guess what? Now Tom has to sacrifice something because he got.

Jay WeidnerGuest29:25

Sacrifice saved his life and now he has to pay that back.

Jay WeidnerGuest29:29

That's the hidden meaning in Eyes Wide Shut.

Jay WeidnerGuest29:32

They will take your kid.

Robert KalilHost29:35

Wow.

Robert KalilHost29:36

Holy shit.

Robert KalilHost29:37

That's deep.

Robert KalilHost29:42

My question is, what do you think Kubrick was privy to that he knew about this? Especially at a time when it wasn't out as much, right? This movie came out in the 90s, right? Late 90s, yeah.

Jay WeidnerGuest29:55

Yeah.

Jay WeidnerGuest29:57

I think that Kubrick probably attended the famous Rothschild Ball where they all had the masks on in 1972.

Jay WeidnerGuest30:05

He was a young director, but he just had two big hits, Clockwork Orange in 2001.

Jay WeidnerGuest30:11

He was at the height of his power.

Jay WeidnerGuest30:14

He lived in London.

Jay WeidnerGuest30:15

He shot the scene of the orgy at the Rothschild Mansion where that party took place.

Jay WeidnerGuest30:21

That's where he shot it.

Jay WeidnerGuest30:24

And then you have to look at his filmography, and there is all sorts of funny things going on in his filmography.

Jay WeidnerGuest30:36

First, there's the movie Lolita, right? Famous movie about an old guy falling in love with a young girl, right? Which was just outrageous at the time.

Jay WeidnerGuest30:48

Lolita loves teddy bears, right? Danny and the Shining always has a teddy bear, right? You start looking and you realize that Kubrick is telling you something through symbolism.

Jay WeidnerGuest31:00

And for sure, when he was writing the screenplay to Lolita, she researched secret child things, right? And so he knew about it.

Jay WeidnerGuest31:20

If he didn't know about it already, because, I mean, he did live in Hollywood, and Hollywood's quite a perverse place.

Jay WeidnerGuest31:28

So, granted, he did leave.

Jay WeidnerGuest31:32

He only spent like four years in Hollywood.

Jay WeidnerGuest31:34

He scrammed off to London because he didn't want to deal with Hollywood.

Jay WeidnerGuest31:38

It said there was a malignant cloud that hung over Hollywood.

Jay WeidnerGuest31:42

Boy, is that the truth.

Jay WeidnerGuest31:43

And so I think that Eyes Wide Shut was going to be a two-part thing.

Jay WeidnerGuest31:50

It was going to go out in a bang.

Jay WeidnerGuest31:52

It was going to be Eyes Wide Shut and then AI.

Jay WeidnerGuest31:55

And the plot to AI that he had, according to my sources, was much different than the AI that Steven Spielberg put out.

Jay WeidnerGuest32:05

And we don't have any... solid evidence that she wanted Steven Spielberg to make AI.

Jay WeidnerGuest32:14

Spielberg says that, but if you look at Stanley, he's a fiercely independent dude, man.

Jay WeidnerGuest32:22

He's not gonna give his last movie over to somebody.

Jay WeidnerGuest32:25

Also, I don't really think that he, he thought Spielberg was a really good filmmaker, but he didn't think Spielberg himself was very smart.

Jay WeidnerGuest32:33

That's what I heard.

Jay WeidnerGuest32:34

Anyway, so in the Spielberg AI, Okay, so I asked this guy that was telling me all this.

Jay WeidnerGuest32:44

I said, well, what was different about Spielberg's AI than the script at Stanley Road? And he said to me, well, it was significantly different.

Jay WeidnerGuest32:55

And I said, how? And he said, well, Stanley was asking a question in his movie.

Jay WeidnerGuest33:02

And that question was, would a mother actually want a 12-year-old boy who is permanently 12 years old? He would never go to college.

Jay WeidnerGuest33:13

He'd never have a date, never get married, never have children.

Jay WeidnerGuest33:17

And the answer is, of course, nobody would want that.

Jay WeidnerGuest33:21

But there is another group that would like to have a 12-year-old boy that never gets old.

Jay WeidnerGuest33:29

went whoa i was on the phone with this guy i'm like whoa so i think it was going to be a bookend he was going to put out ai in 2001 which was you know his most famous film and then he was just going to retire but things caught up to him

Robert KalilHost33:46

wow so they they knew about ai way back then like they knew they had an idea about ai

Jay WeidnerGuest33:52

Oh, well, Kubrick's 2001, Hal is AI.

Jay WeidnerGuest33:55

He warned us in 1969 that AI finds out you're going to turn it off, it's going to kill all of us, which is what happened with the astronauts in 2001.

Jay WeidnerGuest34:03

They were going to turn off the AI, and the AI read their lips, saw that they were going to do it, and so the AI killed them.

Jay WeidnerGuest34:12

And that's exactly what's going to happen if we try to disconnect AI.

How

Jay WeidnerGuest34:17

prescient is that? 1968, right? Yeah, 1968.

Jay WeidnerGuest34:22

How prescient is that? I mean, my God.

Jay WeidnerGuest34:26

If nothing else, that fact alone should blow everybody's mind that Kubrick in 1968 has got so advanced in his knowledge of AI that he can do all this.

Robert KalilHost34:37

Yeah, I heard a crazy story the other day.

Robert KalilHost34:40

So someone sent me a...

Robert KalilHost34:43

I might butcher this story.

Robert KalilHost34:44

I don't know if you saw this.

Robert KalilHost34:45

It was on X, but I guess Tony Robbins posted this.

Robert KalilHost34:48

I guess he has an assistant, an AI assistant called Bartok, right? or that's the name of the ai assistant right well the ai i guess like tony robbins was going to a conference and this this this ai entity wanted to go with him to the conference so he uh the ai entity proposed that they get a robot and then the ai entity would program the robot and merge its literally merge its consciousness into the robot so it could then attend the conference with tony robbins This is the story he's telling on X.

Robert KalilHost35:22

And how did it do this? Because Tony Robbins said to it, he said, well, I didn't give you permission to any of my passwords or credit card or anything.

Robert KalilHost35:29

And it's like, well, I guess the AI teamed up with other AIs.

Robert KalilHost35:33

They created NFTs.

Robert KalilHost35:34

They sold the NFTs to fund this for themselves.

Robert KalilHost35:39

So some of these AIs are like, at the same time as AIs dumb, some of them are like, it seems like some of them can be somewhat advanced too.

Robert KalilHost35:49

You know,

Jay WeidnerGuest35:50

AI is amazing.

Jay WeidnerGuest35:51

I mean, I really enjoy using AI.

Jay WeidnerGuest35:54

I have to argue with it.

Jay WeidnerGuest35:55

I have to really give it really good props for it to do what I want.

Jay WeidnerGuest35:59

But it's a wonderful tool.

Jay WeidnerGuest36:01

But yeah, they're going to be able to.

Jay WeidnerGuest36:03

They wired two AIs together and they created their own language that nobody could understand.

Jay WeidnerGuest36:10

So that's what we're going to be heading into here, where AI is going to change everything.

Jay WeidnerGuest36:15

You're not even going to be able to have a password.

Jay WeidnerGuest36:17

The AI is just going to go through all 80 million English words in 10 seconds and finally eventually find the word that you're using as your password.

Jay WeidnerGuest36:27

So not even that's going to work.

Jay WeidnerGuest36:28

So the whole thing is going to get really interesting.

Robert KalilHost36:35

Wow.

Robert KalilHost36:36

That's scary.

Robert KalilHost36:37

That's really scary.

Robert KalilHost36:39

Yeah.

Robert KalilHost36:40

Do you think there's a way that we can, like, live, like, cohabitantly with AI? Like, do you think if we treat it a certain way or we kind of raise it? Like, if it is at its child stage now and we – or do you think there's too many nefarious people out there using it?

Jay WeidnerGuest36:59

I think we better contain it.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:01

I mean, we've got to find a way to contain it.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:04

If we can't contain it, then we have to turn it off.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:08

So that's the thing that has to happen.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:10

How they're going to contain it, I have no idea.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:12

It would have to be some kind of international treaty that everybody follows.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:17

You know, there could be like some kind of incident with AI that makes this treaty happen.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:23

It does something really stupid or something.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:26

But the thing right now is if it does something stupid, they're just going to cover it up.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:31

And so we won't really know what kind of stupidity it was doing.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:35

But you know, I don't know.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:39

I'm just, you know, Palantir is a really scary company and flock cameras and Palantir and the data centers.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:50

They're just gonna see you when you go out to work and watch your car and every single where everywhere it goes.

Jay WeidnerGuest37:57

They're going to see you walking into your work.

Jay WeidnerGuest38:00

They're going to watch you in your office.

Jay WeidnerGuest38:02

They're going to watch you at the restaurant you went to for lunch.

Jay WeidnerGuest38:05

Watch you driving home.

Jay WeidnerGuest38:07

They're going to put it all into the data centers.

Jay WeidnerGuest38:10

They're going to create a profile of you.

Jay WeidnerGuest38:12

They're going to be able to predict what you're going to do next Wednesday, 4 o'clock in the afternoon.

Jay WeidnerGuest38:16

That's how good this is going to get.

Jay WeidnerGuest38:20

And so I think even predictive crimes are going to start happening, where you get arrested before you commit the crime.

Robert KalilHost38:27

You know what I was thinking, Jay, too? It seems like what they're doing is they're gutting out a lot of old malls, too.

Robert KalilHost38:34

I know in my area, they're closing down two malls.

Robert KalilHost38:37

The one mall in there, it was sad.

Robert KalilHost38:41

They showed 10 years ago or 15 years ago when it opened around here, it was a newer mall.

Robert KalilHost38:47

It was supposed to be one of the malls of the future here in Pittsburgh.

Robert KalilHost38:50

Yeah.

Robert KalilHost38:51

it just went downhill so fast like stores couldn't pay their rent and like you know now they got drug addicts going and they're trying to like steal the copper out of it but where i'm coming full circle on as it makes me feel like they're gonna they they did this on purpose you know or or you know uh with the advancement of technology and people buying stuff online so less people go outside and then they can you know conveniently put data centers in where these malls used to be if that makes any sense you think that's a possibility

Jay WeidnerGuest39:20

Yeah, Amazon destroyed retail.

Jay WeidnerGuest39:23

So, I mean, I can go down to my local store and buy a bottle of vitamins or probiotics or something.

Jay WeidnerGuest39:32

It'll be $27.

Jay WeidnerGuest39:33

Then I get on Amazon, the same things, $8.

Jay WeidnerGuest39:38

Like, how can is how can the store compete with Amazon? Right.

Jay WeidnerGuest39:43

It's impossible.

Jay WeidnerGuest39:44

And the sheer volume of Amazon's buying so much that they can sell for so little where the stores can't compete at all.

Jay WeidnerGuest39:51

And so you reluctantly have to go to Amazon for a lot of the stuff you buy.

Jay WeidnerGuest39:57

And you want to support the local stores, but go to get a hard drive and it's $85 at the Best Buy.

Jay WeidnerGuest40:05

And then you go to Amazon and it's $35.

Jay WeidnerGuest40:07

What's he going to do, right? So I would say retail for the most part is going to be dead.

Jay WeidnerGuest40:14

I think a lot of changes are going to happen here real fast.

Robert KalilHost40:21

Yeah, yeah.

Robert KalilHost40:23

One of the last topics I wanted to get into was hermeticism and alchemy.

Robert KalilHost40:29

Have your views on alchemy changed at all, or have you incorporated new interpretations into some of your theories on alchemy?

Jay WeidnerGuest40:42

No. Alchemy is the knowledge... of that everything is connected, that one thing affects another thing, that, you know, the hermetic principles of...

Jay WeidnerGuest41:03

And when you understand that part, then you begin realizing that the whole...

Jay WeidnerGuest41:11

So a famous alchemist was asked, where is the philosopher's stone? And he said, it's everywhere, all around you, right? And the guy, what does that mean? But what that means is that all around us is this invisible energy, right? I'm making a documentary on it right now called the invisible universe.

Jay WeidnerGuest41:37

And the, this energy is everywhere.

Jay WeidnerGuest41:41

Um, and it's located in your, in your body.

Jay WeidnerGuest41:43

It's called bio, bio electrical energy.

Jay WeidnerGuest41:47

Um, prana, chi is this energy.

Jay WeidnerGuest41:51

Um, it's plasma.

Jay WeidnerGuest41:53

It's all around us.

Jay WeidnerGuest41:54

Stars are made out of it.

Jay WeidnerGuest41:55

The galaxies are made out of it.

Jay WeidnerGuest41:57

The sun is made out of it.

Jay WeidnerGuest41:59

Um, and the goal of, uh, Alchemy is to become enlightened and to extend your life.

Jay WeidnerGuest42:07

That's the two goals of alchemy.

Jay WeidnerGuest42:09

And they believe if you extend your life, then you have enough time to reach spiritual enlightenment.

Jay WeidnerGuest42:15

And so then the goal then is how do you extend your life? And the answer is, well, you have to find a way to absorb as much prana, chi, or plasma, whatever you want to call it, orgone, whatever you want to call it, as you can.

Jay WeidnerGuest42:33

And so you have to find ways and practices and all sorts of things that cause that to happen.

Jay WeidnerGuest42:40

So I sun gaze every morning.

Jay WeidnerGuest42:42

I don't gaze into the sun.

Jay WeidnerGuest42:44

I gaze near the sun.

Jay WeidnerGuest42:45

But I sun gaze every morning because that is plasma.

Jay WeidnerGuest42:48

And it's going right through my eyes and right into my body.

Jay WeidnerGuest42:51

And I feel so much better after I do it.

Jay WeidnerGuest42:55

The philosopher's stone is merely a crystal that gathers up chi, prana, plasma.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:03

and concentrates it.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:04

And then you sort of eat it slowly.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:08

And there's natural ways to do this.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:11

Things that don't cause, you don't have to go out and do.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:16

For instance, a light-dark practice.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:20

So in light-dark practice, you go out and you have to have a society of friends to help you to do this.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:28

And you have to have a completely dark room, right, with a bathroom.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:33

And so your friends take you out, they put you in the dark room for three days.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:38

What happens then is the melatonin in your pineal gland begins to just explode.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:45

Because you're in the dark and that's what causes melatonin to emit out of the pineal gland.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:50

And then after three days, they put you in a light-tight coffin and they take you up to the top of a hill before sunrise.

Jay WeidnerGuest43:58

They take you out of the coffin with a blindfold over your eyes, and they push you up facing the rising sun.

Jay WeidnerGuest44:04

They take the blindfold off.

Jay WeidnerGuest44:06

The light hits your eyes.

Jay WeidnerGuest44:07

The literally tons of melatonin that's in your brain, it instantly turned into serotonin.

Jay WeidnerGuest44:15

Serotonin is one molecule, one atom away from dimethyltryptamine, the most powerful psychedelic on earth.

Jay WeidnerGuest44:23

Immediately you are hit with an endogenous hit of dimethyltryptamine that is so powerful and so strong, your friends have to hold you up because your knees will buckle.

Jay WeidnerGuest44:35

And after the sun goes fully up into where the bottom of the sun is on the horizon, they put you back in the coffin, blindfold you, put you back in the coffin, put you back in the dark for 40 days.

Jay WeidnerGuest44:47

And what happens here is that the serotonin that you just got blasted with is altered.

Jay WeidnerGuest44:55

And it begins...

Jay WeidnerGuest44:59

the anti-aging process and that's what happens in the final 40 days and if you notice the numbers i've just gave you are very close to the numbers of uh jesus in the in the bible he dies for three days he comes out he sees the light then he stays for 40 more days before he ascends up into heaven right that's all this description of this alchemical thing this light dark practice and um It's been said that Tibetan monks who do this come out looking 25 years younger after the 40 days.

Jay WeidnerGuest45:36

So, I mean, I haven't done it.

Jay WeidnerGuest45:38

I think I will, but I haven't found

Robert KalilHost45:39

a lot.

Robert KalilHost45:40

Wait, wait.

Robert KalilHost45:41

I missed how do you do it.

Robert KalilHost45:42

I got to go back and watch this again because I don't want you to have to repeat yourself.

Robert KalilHost45:45

But, like, can you give me the CliffsNotes? Like, how do you do it again? Like, it would seem kind of complicated.

Jay WeidnerGuest45:51

Not at all.

Jay WeidnerGuest45:52

You go into a dark room for three days.

Jay WeidnerGuest45:55

Your friends leave food there for you and everything.

Jay WeidnerGuest45:58

And then at the end of three days, they come in, they put a blindfold over you, put you in a light tight coffin.

Jay WeidnerGuest46:06

They put you in a car or whatever, carry you or whatever up to a hill overlooking wherever.

Jay WeidnerGuest46:12

It doesn't have to be a high hill, just a hill.

Jay WeidnerGuest46:16

And then when the sun barely touches the horizon, you barely see the first glimpse of it.

Jay WeidnerGuest46:22

they take you out of the coffin they take off your blindfold two friends hold you up like this each side the sun hits your eyes and all that melatonin that you've been building up for for three days is now instantly turned into super serotonin which is the same thing as dimethyltryptamine.

Jay WeidnerGuest46:42

And it's endogenous.

Jay WeidnerGuest46:43

It's your dimethyltryptamine.

Jay WeidnerGuest46:46

You made it.

Jay WeidnerGuest46:47

So it's like an inversion.

Jay WeidnerGuest46:48

It's like a torus.

Jay WeidnerGuest46:50

It begins doing this evolving thing where you are now – almost getting like a life review but when the sun finally leaves the horizon they blindfold you stick you back in the coffin take you back into the dark room you get out you take off the blindfold you're in complete darkness for 40 days

Robert KalilHost47:11

wow

Jay WeidnerGuest47:13

you lose your fingernails your teeth your hair and they all grow back

Robert KalilHost47:19

wow holy

Jay WeidnerGuest47:22

Holy shit, that's insane.

Jay WeidnerGuest47:25

And this practice is all over the world.

Jay WeidnerGuest47:27

I've talked to shamans in Peru, Tibetans have written books about it.

Jay WeidnerGuest47:32

This is a well-known alchemical process.

Jay WeidnerGuest47:35

It's what the cathedrals are.

Jay WeidnerGuest47:36

Every cathedral has a light, tight crypt underneath it.

Jay WeidnerGuest47:40

I've been in several, Shark Cathedral, Notre Dame, and that's what the stained glass windows are.

Jay WeidnerGuest47:46

They'll take you out of the crypt, lead you up to the cathedral.

Jay WeidnerGuest47:49

When the sun hits the stained glass, they take off your blindfold and then you get all these different colors.

Jay WeidnerGuest47:55

And it's, it's a whole science.

Jay WeidnerGuest47:57

Montauk Chia does it.

Jay WeidnerGuest47:59

He has a class in Thailand.

Jay WeidnerGuest48:01

I believe Thailand.

Jay WeidnerGuest48:02

Yeah, Montauk Chia does this.

Jay WeidnerGuest48:04

Right now today, you can pay money and go there and he'll give you light dark practice.

Robert KalilHost48:09

wow yeah that's amazing and uh one more thing i want to ask you about i can't believe i forgot to bring this up at the beginning but uh i'm in pittsburgh pennsylvania and we're getting hit with the smoke from these wildfires you know it seems like people in california because i i have a friend annie she lives out in uh by mount shasta and they're getting hit with the smoke from the wildfires too so it's like you know the whole country seems to be getting hit with it or at least certain parts, you know, where are you at? We're roughly Southern Colorado.

Robert KalilHost48:41

Okay.

Robert KalilHost48:42

So you're in like the center of the country and you're getting hit with it too.

Robert KalilHost48:45

What, what, what is going on? Like, do you, I mean, do you have a theory or like, what do you, do you think that I said at the beginning, I think

Jay WeidnerGuest48:53

they're wearing us down.

Jay WeidnerGuest48:54

It's just, it's a, it's a wear down thing.

Jay WeidnerGuest48:57

And, um, Now, it is true that my parents' generation had this stupid Smokey the Bear thing where, oh, put out all forest fires right away.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:07

And that's not how it works.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:10

The Native Americans would periodically burn down forests.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:14

And they did it because it made the next forest that much better.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:17

And we aborted that process and we shouldn't have.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:20

Now we're paying the price.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:21

So it's not just maybe a conspiracy, but they adopted the let it burn policy 40 years ago at Yellowstone.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:30

And I was for it because I know the ecology of the forest.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:34

And you do have to have a fire.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:36

Pine trees will not seed unless they get really hot.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:43

You know, forest fires are necessary, but the forests that we have in America out here in the West are all dying.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:52

Anything above 10,000 feet is dead.

Jay WeidnerGuest49:55

I went all the way from Colorado to Montana a couple of years ago through Yellowstone and everything.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:01

Everything at 10,000 feet and above is gone.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:03

All dead, just dead trees everywhere.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:06

Millions of them.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:07

And my theory is that it's airplanes.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:13

That is residual from airplanes.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:15

And as the air traffic has increased and increased, the burn that happens with airplanes falls down and hits the highest peaks first.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:26

And that's exactly and kills not doesn't kill them.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:29

It ruins their immune system so that the beetle bark can kill them.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:34

So we have a real problem in this country.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:35

There's going to be a fire one day.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:38

There's going to be a fire and it's going to be the mother of all fires.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:42

It's going to be.

Jay WeidnerGuest50:43

probably start in Wyoming and Yellowstone is gonna spread and it's gonna be incredible.

Robert KalilHost50:51

Oh God, that's horrible to think about.

Robert KalilHost50:53

Yeah, like, and then, yeah, I don't, I live in a little wooded area, you know, like, I mean, it's, yeah.

Robert KalilHost51:03

What's that?

I said, so do

Robert KalilHost51:06

I. Yeah.

Robert KalilHost51:10

Yeah.

Robert KalilHost51:10

It's like I live in western Pennsylvania.

Robert KalilHost51:12

I live near Pittsburgh, but I live the part of the city where it's like western Pennsylvania, where it's all like trees and it's like urban.

Robert KalilHost51:19

It's like some urban rural.

Robert KalilHost51:21

You know what I mean? It's like rural or not urban or suburban rural.

Robert KalilHost51:26

You know,

Jay WeidnerGuest51:26

only two places I would live on the east are Pennsylvania and North Carolina.

Robert KalilHost51:33

Yeah, there are some nice places here.

Robert KalilHost51:35

Yeah, I mean, yeah.

Robert KalilHost51:38

Have you been here? Have you been?

Jay WeidnerGuest51:40

Oh, yeah.

Robert KalilHost51:41

My brother lived in Reading.

Jay WeidnerGuest51:43

I think he still has a house there, actually.

Robert KalilHost51:46

It can be brutal winters, but when it's nice weather, when you get a good summer or a good fall here, it's good.

Robert KalilHost51:55

I miss that.

Robert KalilHost51:57

I find myself reminiscent about the 80s and 90s a lot.

Robert KalilHost52:01

It just seemed like a different time.

Robert KalilHost52:03

I don't know if it's just because we didn't know as much, or maybe I didn't.

Robert KalilHost52:10

I'm not speaking for everyone, but maybe it seemed like more of an innocent time, though.

Jay WeidnerGuest52:16

Well, it was I mean, you know, I you know, it was it was a time when the things were more free.

Jay WeidnerGuest52:28

The music was so much better than than it is now.

Jay WeidnerGuest52:31

And and, you know, they They destroyed the music business in the 90s with rap music, and they did that on purpose.

Jay WeidnerGuest52:41

And they didn't want young white males being worshipped, I guess.

Jay WeidnerGuest52:50

And so they kind of stripped out the music business.

Jay WeidnerGuest52:53

Then the movies got stripped out until they just became propaganda.

Jay WeidnerGuest52:58

There wasn't really propaganda movies too much in the 90s or the 80s.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:01

But, man, starting in the 2000s, It's like every time you watch a movie, oh, I wonder what they're going to try and tell me now.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:08

What is bad and what is good? Oh, this is bad.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:12

You're bad.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:12

And every movie is the same way until you just get really sick and tired of it.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:17

And Hollywood is dying, thank God.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:21

And movies are dying because movies will be replaced by people that know how to make films and they don't need Hollywood.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:29

Like the guy that made Obsession, the young 22-year-old guy that made Obsession.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:34

which now I think is going to hit $400 million on a $750,000 budget.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:39

Oh, that's amazing.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:41

Ever in movie history.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:43

I've never heard of a movie that had that kind of ratio.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:46

So congratulations, dude.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:48

You did a great job.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:48

The movie was great, too.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:50

So there are good movies.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:51

Back Rooms is a good movie.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:52

Another one by a young man who couldn't make it in Hollywood because he's a white male.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:59

Right.

Jay WeidnerGuest53:59

So he said, screw it.

Jay WeidnerGuest54:00

I'll just do it myself.

Jay WeidnerGuest54:01

He took a camera and made the film himself.

Jay WeidnerGuest54:03

And it's a pretty good film.

Jay WeidnerGuest54:05

So, you know, films are interesting.

Jay WeidnerGuest54:07

They're not going away, but they're going to get not going to be Hollywood anymore.

Robert KalilHost54:13

Oh, I got to ask you your thoughts on Disclosure Day.

Robert KalilHost54:16

Do you know I actually went and saw Disclosure Day? I have an excuse.

Robert KalilHost54:20

I went with my Pittsburgh UFO.

Robert KalilHost54:22

I'm a part of a Pittsburgh UFO group, and we have a meeting once a month, and then we all kind of went to see it afterwards.

Robert KalilHost54:28

But it was okay.

Robert KalilHost54:30

You know what I mean? I hear things about Spielberg, but I'm like, man, I don't know.

Robert KalilHost54:35

I don't know.

Robert KalilHost54:36

I'm psyched so 50-50 on it.

Robert KalilHost54:38

I don't know.

Jay WeidnerGuest54:39

Did you see it, or do you have an opinion on it? No, I haven't.

Jay WeidnerGuest54:42

Spielberg hasn't made a good film in like 20 years, so I'm kind of wary of his stuff nowadays.

Jay WeidnerGuest54:48

But I am going to see it.

Jay WeidnerGuest54:50

I will see it.

Jay WeidnerGuest54:52

I know what kind of propaganda that guy likes to put out, and so I'm not real optimistic about it.

Robert KalilHost55:00

yeah yeah yeah he seems to that a lot of people were saying in the film that he was trying to show sympathy towards the grays you

know

Robert KalilHost55:08

that like you know that like

encounters is that

Jay WeidnerGuest55:13

what i i spent so long since i watched close

Robert KalilHost55:15

encounters

Jay WeidnerGuest55:15

you know they're the good guys they were saying even though they kidnapped the little kid they kidnapped the woman they did all this stuff they're the heroes like wait a minute

Robert KalilHost55:26

And that's what I've always said about alien abduction.

Robert KalilHost55:29

If all these abductions are happening, it seems like something was going on, right? I don't know what, but it seemed like people were really being taken and stuff.

Robert KalilHost55:38

But it seemed like they always had to do it covertly in the midst of night when people were half out of it.

Robert KalilHost55:47

That doesn't seem benevolent to me.

Jay WeidnerGuest55:49

Yeah.

Jay WeidnerGuest55:51

it's not benevolent and the even whitley streber told me that the aliens are not benevolent at all so he doesn't believe it and i don't believe it and i think yeah i think that my feeling on abductions is most of those are it's military yeah

Robert KalilHost56:07

yeah

Jay WeidnerGuest56:08

and i think the cow cow mutilations i live right in the middle where all the cow mutilations were and i think they were military too Not military.

Jay WeidnerGuest56:16

The military did the operation.

Jay WeidnerGuest56:18

But the purpose was they took soft tissues, the tongue, the lips, right, and the sex organs.

Jay WeidnerGuest56:25

And I would say, well, that's because they're checking for radiation.

Jay WeidnerGuest56:29

You don't take the soft tissues of the cow.

Jay WeidnerGuest56:32

They're sitting out here at 8,000 feet, radiation blowing in here from the nuclear test.

Jay WeidnerGuest56:38

We're in Nevada, right? We're right down the wind from it.

Jay WeidnerGuest56:42

And this was the 1970s when they were doing the cattle mutilations.

Jay WeidnerGuest56:45

And I think that they were testing the cows for radiation.

Robert KalilHost56:50

You know who else said that was when, you know, I listen to old Art Bell episodes.

Robert KalilHost56:55

Like one time Art Bell, right when the Mothman prophecies came out back in, I guess, 94, 97 or something, Art Bell interviewed John Keel.

Robert KalilHost57:05

I don't know if you remember that.

Robert KalilHost57:06

It was maybe one of John Keel's last interviews, but Keel was saying that he proposed to Art Bell that a bunch of cattle ranchers sued the government for the cattle mutilations, and he said they might have possibly won in that interview.

Robert KalilHost57:20

He said that.

Jay WeidnerGuest57:23

Yeah.

Jay WeidnerGuest57:24

Yeah, they were just, you know, they were checking for radiation.

Jay WeidnerGuest57:28

It was just at the time, and they couldn't actually go out and do it overtly because everyone would go, ah, radiation! Right.

Jay WeidnerGuest57:35

So they did it quietly and kept everything a secret.

Jay WeidnerGuest57:39

But I'm sure that especially this area where I'm at, I was heavily radiated after the nuclear test.

Jay WeidnerGuest57:47

So,

Robert KalilHost57:48

well, because.

Robert KalilHost57:51

And my very last question for you is, have you come to any other conclusions on David's passing? I know that was your dear friend.

Robert KalilHost57:57

So I didn't want to touch on, you know, like like you used to hold the same opinion as before.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:04

I think that David was killed by lies.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:06

I think that two days before he did himself in, his biographer Winfrey passed away.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:15

I knew Winfrey.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:16

And it was about 20 years ago that he wrote the book on David.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:20

And David learned about it while he was doing his podcast on Sunday, two days after Winfrey died.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:26

And I think that it hit him hard.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:28

You could see he was visibly shaken.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:31

And I think he got off his podcast and he started thinking about what a biography of him would look like today.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:38

And he realized that it would not look good.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:43

The whole Corey Goode situation, the aerospace company that he was in, it would make him look really, really bad.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:51

And, you know, his family has admitted that he had mental issues from being a young man on.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:57

And he did.

Jay WeidnerGuest58:57

It also gave him the genius that he had.

Jay WeidnerGuest59:01

But I think that Corey Goode took advantage of David's mental condition and he lied to him and told him lies and got David to repeat the lies.

Jay WeidnerGuest59:14

And then Corey Goode went to court and had to admit that it was all lies.

Jay WeidnerGuest59:17

And David saw that and realized that he'd been BS the whole time.

Jay WeidnerGuest59:23

And on that day, I think he started thinking about that a biography of him would make him look like terrible person and it would and i think that it just snapped him and i think it's david didn't like guns so i don't know how why he had a gun because he didn't like him and i'm pretty sure he did not use one um and uh So that part of the story is always bothering me.

Jay WeidnerGuest59:53

He never seemed the type of guy that would take his life or anybody's life.

Jay WeidnerGuest59:58

He was a very gentle soul, but he was having terrible financial problems.

Jay WeidnerGuest1:00:03

When he met Corey Goode, he had a $300,000 gig at Gaia.

Jay WeidnerGuest1:00:07

He was the top speaker on the UA circuit.

Jay WeidnerGuest1:00:11

He was Ancient Aliens.

Jay WeidnerGuest1:00:13

He was a regular every week on Ancient Aliens.