Ruby Turner // Kathryn Tickell

I started by suggesting to her that she's always embraced being a musician, but had never really embraced being famous?

Simply because, and I think the only way to express it, I came to serve the music and not myself.

And I think the celebrity thing is all about self and self-promotion.

And then I think that is okay to a point, but then it gets out of hand.

as far as I'm concerned, in some cases.

And it becomes too much.

Too much is shared, I believe, sometimes.

There's no room for anonymity.

There's no mystery anymore.

And then the more you give, the more people want.

Much needs more.

And for me, I believe sometimes people don't leave anything for themselves.

But I'm quite shy anyway.

naturally i am so therefore i and i'm not that vivacious full of that i'll do my work on stage but that's about it really um i save that for when i'm in behind doors with my friends and family apart from that i don't think everything needs to be out there

that's just me you know It's such an interesting concept as well.

You're right that the more you give, the more people want.

And of course, music history is listed with people who thought that they were giving the more that was wanted, but it was never enough.

And it just kept never being enough until such a point that, well, either they had to stop or their career ended or in some tragic cases, they couldn't take it anymore.

Yeah.

Yeah, you know, it's feed the beast, isn't it, really? And the music industry is a beast anyway, because it doesn't stop.

You know, you have to keep people constantly reinventing themselves.

You know, the music platform changes.

You have to go with that.

You constantly have to stay on your metal to stay on the job or stay in the job, you know? So that's bad enough.

I'm trying to stay with that.