and and being an artist and he said you're only being an artist at the moment when you're actually starting to feel really uncomfortable and out of your comfort zone so while you're operating in your comfort zone that's not being an artist that's that's just doing stuff and and he said um you're only really an artist at the point at which you feel out of your comfort zone and i wonder whether this symbolizes in some ways the way you've always worked as well insofar as doing things that are not in your comfort zone or doing things which may initially feel musically complex or musically out of your reach are you the kind of artist who at that point just thinks that's exactly the point in which i'm going to do this

i've always had a rule for myself that if i am offered any work or a collaboration or something like that And it scares me and I'm not sure whether I can do it or what I can do in that situation.

My rule has always been that is the one that I have to take.

And it's true that those challenges really bring something out of you.

But then I also think that...

There's creation and creativity.

It doesn't have to be that challenging thing.

What should we play?