Jul 10, 2026 · 1 hr 6 min · 12 segments
"We have more lives than we can imagine to make our dreams come true, to see our prayers answered. To see with the eyes of the dead is to know that our story is a long story with so many more twists…
I am here with Perdita Finn, the author of Mothers of Magic, Summoning the Wisdom of Our Ancestors.
This is a book from 2026.
Welcome, Perdita.
Oh, yes, I am too.
And I want to begin just really quickly, not a long speech or anything, but really quickly, I do want to compliment your book.
I mean, I feel like it's really informing me and it's so soulful at the same time.
So I was like, I need to take this sentence in.
And I love that when reading books where I feel like I need that sentence again and again and again, because there's more to it than just information.
Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
My goal was to give people back a story that has not been told coherently and in its full scope, which is, you know, what did it mean to be a mother before civilization? What is it and what does it become within it? And I felt like I needed to tell a very different story than the triumphant rise of civilization and our ascendant human species uploading its consciousness to the cloud and some great rapturous technological flurry, sorry.
Yeah.
So, so that, and that's the message.
And we're going to speak about that.
I just want to make that note that it's also really soulfully written.
So it's, it's like goes to another layer of you.
Yeah.
I
I felt like, I mean, quite literally, as I began to write, I began to feel the ones I call the old ones, these grandmothers from before civilization and, I mean, I'm not a psychic.
Wow.
Wow.
What a journey.
What a point for you to reach as well.
Okay.
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I am here with Perdita Finn, the author of Mothers of Magic, Summoning the Wisdom of Our Ancestors.
This is a book from 2026.
Welcome, Perdita.
Oh, yes, I am too.
And I want to begin just really quickly, not a long speech or anything, but really quickly, I do want to compliment your book.
I mean, I feel like it's really informing me and it's so soulful at the same time.
So I was like, I need to take this sentence in.
And I love that when reading books where I feel like I need that sentence again and again and again, because there's more to it than just information.
Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
My goal was to give people back a story that has not been told coherently and in its full scope, which is, you know, what did it mean to be a mother before civilization? What is it and what does it become within it? And I felt like I needed to tell a very different story than the triumphant rise of civilization and our ascendant human species uploading its consciousness to the cloud and some great rapturous technological flurry, sorry.
Yeah.
So, so that, and that's the message.
And we're going to speak about that.
I just want to make that note that it's also really soulfully written.
So it's, it's like goes to another layer of you.
Yeah.
I
I felt like, I mean, quite literally, as I began to write, I began to feel the ones I call the old ones, these grandmothers from before civilization and, I mean, I'm not a psychic.
Wow.
Wow.
What a journey.
What a point for you to reach as well.
Okay.