The Westerosi Primer - A Song of Ice and Fire Podcast
Jul 15, 2026 · 23 min · 14 segments
In this episode, Liz reviews House of the Dragon’s episode “Tumbleton.” She notes it contains more significant plot movement and setup. She discusses Ormund Hightower’s unusual dynamic with Daeron…
okay so
let us start off with Ormond Hightower.
I find that it's really strange the dynamic between Daeron and Ormond Hightower in the show because that is definitely not quite the relationship in the book, which is why I feel it's a little weird in my personal humble opinion.
From what I recall, Daeron was basically sent there in a way that's similar to how Egg is supposed to be squiring for a night.
That is, in essence, what he is doing.
It's also more similar to how Ned and Robert Baratheon spent part of their childhood into early teen years in the Vale of Arryn with Jon Arryn instead of being back home at Storm's End or at Winterfell.
It's basically like foster parentage is what it is.
And the way they write Daeron's background is that it's almost as though he was given up to be raised by Alicent's Hightower family when the kid was very young, right? which really doesn't make much sense to me and very few nobles even in the real world would do something like that unless there's very particular circumstances that would cause that to be a thing at all which is why i just find the whole thing very strange but at any rate so beyond that part It's interesting to see how they're trying to set up a big scheme happening related to Tumbleton.
And it's also interesting that Ormond is deciding to have Daeron, in essence, become a king, or at least the king that the Hightowers will be backing, which is a very strange decision yet again, because...
And the Hightowers through Ormond Hightower, in essence, is creating something similar to what we saw in Game of Thrones, which was the War of the Five Kings.
You're potentially creating a situation where it would be no longer the green and black faction.
You would, in essence, be creating almost like a split faction within the green faction, which is, again, very strange and doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Because in no way, shape, or form would anybody else back them.
Daeron as being the candidate to become the one on the Iron Throne, as long as Aemond is still alive, as far as everyone else is aware of.
So that just straight up doesn't make any sense.
It remains to be seen what will happen with Ormond Hightower.
Based off of the preview, they indicate that it's actually clips from several of the episodes coming up in the season, but it looks like we will be getting our Battle of Tumbleton.
I will be curious to see if they also show the Butcher's Ball, which would be very interesting indeed, but...
If you didn't already listen to my season two episodes where I discuss the Dance of the Dragons, which is essentially what this TV show is about, then I'm not going to spoil what that battle is about.
But for the time being, I guess that's all I'm going to say about that particular storyline.
So in a loosely connected storyline is Kristen Cole.
We find out that he and Gwaine have arrived at Heron Hall to find out where the hell Amand is.
And they are led to believe that Amand is no longer at Heron Hall.
okay so
let us start off with Ormond Hightower.
I find that it's really strange the dynamic between Daeron and Ormond Hightower in the show because that is definitely not quite the relationship in the book, which is why I feel it's a little weird in my personal humble opinion.
From what I recall, Daeron was basically sent there in a way that's similar to how Egg is supposed to be squiring for a night.
That is, in essence, what he is doing.
It's also more similar to how Ned and Robert Baratheon spent part of their childhood into early teen years in the Vale of Arryn with Jon Arryn instead of being back home at Storm's End or at Winterfell.
It's basically like foster parentage is what it is.
And the way they write Daeron's background is that it's almost as though he was given up to be raised by Alicent's Hightower family when the kid was very young, right? which really doesn't make much sense to me and very few nobles even in the real world would do something like that unless there's very particular circumstances that would cause that to be a thing at all which is why i just find the whole thing very strange but at any rate so beyond that part It's interesting to see how they're trying to set up a big scheme happening related to Tumbleton.
And it's also interesting that Ormond is deciding to have Daeron, in essence, become a king, or at least the king that the Hightowers will be backing, which is a very strange decision yet again, because...
And the Hightowers through Ormond Hightower, in essence, is creating something similar to what we saw in Game of Thrones, which was the War of the Five Kings.
You're potentially creating a situation where it would be no longer the green and black faction.
You would, in essence, be creating almost like a split faction within the green faction, which is, again, very strange and doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Because in no way, shape, or form would anybody else back them.
Daeron as being the candidate to become the one on the Iron Throne, as long as Aemond is still alive, as far as everyone else is aware of.
So that just straight up doesn't make any sense.
It remains to be seen what will happen with Ormond Hightower.
Based off of the preview, they indicate that it's actually clips from several of the episodes coming up in the season, but it looks like we will be getting our Battle of Tumbleton.
I will be curious to see if they also show the Butcher's Ball, which would be very interesting indeed, but...
If you didn't already listen to my season two episodes where I discuss the Dance of the Dragons, which is essentially what this TV show is about, then I'm not going to spoil what that battle is about.
But for the time being, I guess that's all I'm going to say about that particular storyline.
So in a loosely connected storyline is Kristen Cole.
We find out that he and Gwaine have arrived at Heron Hall to find out where the hell Amand is.
And they are led to believe that Amand is no longer at Heron Hall.
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