Jun 10, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min · 12 segments
Most people optimizing their health are spending the most and changing the least. They have the drawers full of nootropics, the cold plunge, the red light panel, the vagus nerve device that stopped…
John GoldmanGuestKayvon KayHostI keep thinking of the Brian Johnson dude, who I'm like, I don't know if he's psycho crazy or if there's a little bit of validity there.
Y- uh, this whole new world of NAD and in peptides, and then the whole idea of just supplements and supplements aren't good.
Like, what's the difference between the $500 supplement? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll...
I'm not sponsored by anyone, so I can say this, like the Johnson & Johnson supplement's probably not really that great, filled with fillers.
But like there's this whole line of just, we're talking supplements, what you can put in your body, but there's also the whole, now we have the DNA stuff that's happening and what your body should, and some people need this.
There's people out there literally, and I know it's, it has to be a joke, can't be real, people are saying, "You don't actually need water.
To my wa- plain water is bad for you." And then there's, "Well, water from a tap is bad from you." Then water from a bottle is [chuckles]...
And I think the way, as I'm [chuckles] discussing here, I think the way is asking the big question here to you, what is health optimization? Where does it start for you, and where does it end? And when...

And I think it's useful to step back and to really think about the big picture here and where even the concepts of health optimization came from and why.

Uh, all, all it does is it processes you through a seven-minute thing with very limited diagnostic testing, very little prevention, very little forward-thinking work.

Odds are they're gonna put you on a pill, say, "Call me in a year." [coughs] Nothing about the existing healthcare system [coughs]...

Nothing about the existing healthcare system is set up to generate health in you, and that's a very purposeful division that happened back in the '30s in the United States, uh, with this thing called the Flexner Report.

And what it did was is it separated the treatment of disease and the generation of health into two different fields.

And so the treatment of disease is what you get from your traditional doctor here in the US, while the generation of health was relegated or, or, or handed off to the public health professionals.

And these are the people that are looking at the population health and trying to come up with strategies to make the population healthier.

That has been an abject failure, as evidenced by the ever-increasing obesity re- rates and diabetes rates in the United States, where you look around and basically like three out of four people are obese, varying levels of obesity.And so there's just this horrible distortion in the market where you're, you're just, you're going to the guy that you think is gonna make you healthier, but all he is really doing is treating your disease when you come in the door and nothing else.
I keep thinking of the Brian Johnson dude, who I'm like, I don't know if he's psycho crazy or if there's a little bit of validity there.
Y- uh, this whole new world of NAD and in peptides, and then the whole idea of just supplements and supplements aren't good.
Like, what's the difference between the $500 supplement? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'll...
I'm not sponsored by anyone, so I can say this, like the Johnson & Johnson supplement's probably not really that great, filled with fillers.
But like there's this whole line of just, we're talking supplements, what you can put in your body, but there's also the whole, now we have the DNA stuff that's happening and what your body should, and some people need this.
There's people out there literally, and I know it's, it has to be a joke, can't be real, people are saying, "You don't actually need water.
To my wa- plain water is bad for you." And then there's, "Well, water from a tap is bad from you." Then water from a bottle is [chuckles]...
And I think the way, as I'm [chuckles] discussing here, I think the way is asking the big question here to you, what is health optimization? Where does it start for you, and where does it end? And when...

And I think it's useful to step back and to really think about the big picture here and where even the concepts of health optimization came from and why.

Uh, all, all it does is it processes you through a seven-minute thing with very limited diagnostic testing, very little prevention, very little forward-thinking work.

Odds are they're gonna put you on a pill, say, "Call me in a year." [coughs] Nothing about the existing healthcare system [coughs]...

Nothing about the existing healthcare system is set up to generate health in you, and that's a very purposeful division that happened back in the '30s in the United States, uh, with this thing called the Flexner Report.

And what it did was is it separated the treatment of disease and the generation of health into two different fields.

And so the treatment of disease is what you get from your traditional doctor here in the US, while the generation of health was relegated or, or, or handed off to the public health professionals.

And these are the people that are looking at the population health and trying to come up with strategies to make the population healthier.

That has been an abject failure, as evidenced by the ever-increasing obesity re- rates and diabetes rates in the United States, where you look around and basically like three out of four people are obese, varying levels of obesity.And so there's just this horrible distortion in the market where you're, you're just, you're going to the guy that you think is gonna make you healthier, but all he is really doing is treating your disease when you come in the door and nothing else.
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