Feb 24, 2026 · 1 hr 18 min · 18 segments
This episode is a bit different, and I am in the hot seat. **Dan Harris** (@danharris) interviewed me for his show, the…
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I'm recording this one on my iPhone because I was inspired actually by the episode you're going to hear, the person in question, Dan Harris.

And I am now at a secluded mountain retreat to sit and stare at a wall, doing meditation.

[chuckles] I'm going to share more on that another time, but this episode is going to be a little bit different.

Dan Harris, more on Dan in a second, interviewed me for his show, the Ten Percent Happier with Dan Harris Podcast, and I thought it would be worth sharing here.

So, for instance, my most recent brain stimulation protocol, and this was born initially of conversations with the late Nolan Williams, and there's been a lot of trial and error with different doctors, different researchers, and I think I've ended up someplace very, very interesting with non-invasive brain stimulation.

But putting that aside, I've also been thinking for a while, meaning decades, but it's taken me quite a bit to actually ferret out the traps of self-help, the dangers of optimization.

And these are persistent, almost tectonic plates, I would say, that are elements that you need to nudge in the right direction, or you can end up going very much in the wrong direction.

Dan is a wonderful interviewer, and we really got into the zone, so I thought, "You know what? Why not share this?" He is also the bestselling author of Ten Percent Happier and Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics: A Ten Percent Happier How-to Book.

He's also been on The Tim Ferriss Show, so you can hear him in the back catalog, but I will stop there.

You can find Dan Harris and certainly his podcast and everything at danharris.com. That's D-A-N-H-A-R-R-I-S dot com, and without further ado, please enjoy.
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I'm recording this one on my iPhone because I was inspired actually by the episode you're going to hear, the person in question, Dan Harris.

And I am now at a secluded mountain retreat to sit and stare at a wall, doing meditation.

[chuckles] I'm going to share more on that another time, but this episode is going to be a little bit different.

Dan Harris, more on Dan in a second, interviewed me for his show, the Ten Percent Happier with Dan Harris Podcast, and I thought it would be worth sharing here.

So, for instance, my most recent brain stimulation protocol, and this was born initially of conversations with the late Nolan Williams, and there's been a lot of trial and error with different doctors, different researchers, and I think I've ended up someplace very, very interesting with non-invasive brain stimulation.

But putting that aside, I've also been thinking for a while, meaning decades, but it's taken me quite a bit to actually ferret out the traps of self-help, the dangers of optimization.

And these are persistent, almost tectonic plates, I would say, that are elements that you need to nudge in the right direction, or you can end up going very much in the wrong direction.

Dan is a wonderful interviewer, and we really got into the zone, so I thought, "You know what? Why not share this?" He is also the bestselling author of Ten Percent Happier and Meditation for Fidgety Skeptics: A Ten Percent Happier How-to Book.

He's also been on The Tim Ferriss Show, so you can hear him in the back catalog, but I will stop there.

You can find Dan Harris and certainly his podcast and everything at danharris.com. That's D-A-N-H-A-R-R-I-S dot com, and without further ado, please enjoy.