Sep 14, 2026 · 1 hr · 13 segments
In this episode, Glenn leads off the discussion by citing recent claims by scientists that we need to reduce global population by more than half by 2200 for the sake of the planet. The guys note the…
C. R. WileyHost
Glenn SunshineHost
Tom PriceHost

The fact is that, you know, Ehrlich was predicting an imminent collapse of everything if we didn't reduce the population.

Today, there's over 8 billion, and we have not seen the disaster that he predicted.

And actually, what we're seeing is birth rates below the rate of replacement in almost every developed country around the world.

China is realizing that their one-child policy, which, by the way, seems to have been influenced in part at least by Ehrlich's book, is is facing the very great likelihood of severe economic contraction as you have an aging population and an ethos that says that you shouldn't have more than one child, which guarantees a shrinking population.

So We see the disastrous effects of declining population, of reproduction below replacement rate.

We have not seen the predictions of disaster come into effect, and yet somehow you've got this group of scientists who are saying that we need to have the Earth's population in order to save it.

there are a lot of things that come to mind, and you brought up a couple of them, and that is we're already on our way to doing what they want.

So they should be applauding and encouraging people to even just keep going as you're going.

In other words, everything you've noted – if I understand the way the numbers work with demography, will get us to where they say we should be, where we should be without any new efforts or initiatives.

Yeah, and I mean, I'm always fascinated as a theologian looking at the theological vision that underpins these things.

They're views of salvation, right? The high priest scientists are going to deliver their prophetic word and prognostication and solution.

But their solution is basically just start having less and less image bearers around.

Again, it's outside of their competence to have a vision where you can transform and transfigure.


The fact is that, you know, Ehrlich was predicting an imminent collapse of everything if we didn't reduce the population.

Today, there's over 8 billion, and we have not seen the disaster that he predicted.

And actually, what we're seeing is birth rates below the rate of replacement in almost every developed country around the world.

China is realizing that their one-child policy, which, by the way, seems to have been influenced in part at least by Ehrlich's book, is is facing the very great likelihood of severe economic contraction as you have an aging population and an ethos that says that you shouldn't have more than one child, which guarantees a shrinking population.

So We see the disastrous effects of declining population, of reproduction below replacement rate.

We have not seen the predictions of disaster come into effect, and yet somehow you've got this group of scientists who are saying that we need to have the Earth's population in order to save it.

there are a lot of things that come to mind, and you brought up a couple of them, and that is we're already on our way to doing what they want.

So they should be applauding and encouraging people to even just keep going as you're going.

In other words, everything you've noted – if I understand the way the numbers work with demography, will get us to where they say we should be, where we should be without any new efforts or initiatives.

Yeah, and I mean, I'm always fascinated as a theologian looking at the theological vision that underpins these things.

They're views of salvation, right? The high priest scientists are going to deliver their prophetic word and prognostication and solution.

But their solution is basically just start having less and less image bearers around.

Again, it's outside of their competence to have a vision where you can transform and transfigure.
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