The strange and mysterious world Podcast
Jun 23, 2026 · 37 min · 10 segments
Six men entered the Arizona forest. One disappeared. Five days later, Travis Walton returned with one of the most disturbing alien abduction stories ever told. In this episode, we break down the real…
Lee StrydomHost
William CollinsonHost
yeah all right so let's let's get into the story all right so there's two there's two kind of sections to the story the first section is where the the abduction happens uh and then it's what happens after that so in 1975 now you must remember this is a couple of years after the betty and barney hill story um i think whitley streber's stuff was already out so there's things in in the in the consciousness uh out there the zeitgeist yeah it's in the zeitgeist okay so in 1975 in november 5th of november there was a group of six loggers okay these guys that work out in the forest they're going like kind of deforest they're working out in arizona just outside of a town called snowflake Now, Snowflake, it's actually named after the two founders.
The guy that was actually the head of the logs, the guy that was running the crew at the time, his name was Mike Rogers.
There's another guy by the name of Robert Cogdill, Greg Hayes, David Whitlock, and Alan Dallas.
they were like uh this oak allen he kept threatening him with bloody uh he cut trees down near him and the trees would fall like almost on top of him he would threaten him with a chainsaw and all sorts of shit so it seems like there was a bit of hostility going on at this time but anyway so they were out just there's an apache reservation um where these guys were busy uh cutting down the trees and what do we know about the american indians and aliens it's like frequent they they
yeah well that's what old um stephen greer says that it's uh like you have to be now even didn't there was also something with the cia or whatever it's like all of the alien abductions when you go back to it it's always some um native american genome inside the like if they check the person's genome did you hear about that i think it was stephen greer that said that okay well maybe it was that um you must go check that like there's a whole thing about it that the mostly the like all of the abductions that have been taking place you if you go get their dna there's always There's always Native American blood in there or DNA.
Look, the whole thing makes sense to me because the American Indians, the alien thing for them, they call them Star Brothers.
I mean, they've been dealing with the star beings or the star brothers, whatever you want to call it, for freaking since time immemorial, since they can remember.
but remember when we had our samantha samantha on what was her surname she like wrote that book about out-of-body experiences then she went to mongolia to like look it's you know she's an anthropologist or whatever then she went and studied the shamans there mongolia and the shamans there consider when you start seeing greys or like whatever alien things they say it's a shamanic like opening like it's like you know in south africa here when the shamans here they're called sangomas If you start becoming a Sangome, you start having visions or whatever and seeing things and predicting things or whatever, then you say you've got a calling, a calling sickness.
But in Mongolia, they said to her that if you start seeing aliens in that, it's a calling to become a shaman.
yeah all right so let's let's get into the story all right so there's two there's two kind of sections to the story the first section is where the the abduction happens uh and then it's what happens after that so in 1975 now you must remember this is a couple of years after the betty and barney hill story um i think whitley streber's stuff was already out so there's things in in the in the consciousness uh out there the zeitgeist yeah it's in the zeitgeist okay so in 1975 in november 5th of november there was a group of six loggers okay these guys that work out in the forest they're going like kind of deforest they're working out in arizona just outside of a town called snowflake Now, Snowflake, it's actually named after the two founders.
The guy that was actually the head of the logs, the guy that was running the crew at the time, his name was Mike Rogers.
There's another guy by the name of Robert Cogdill, Greg Hayes, David Whitlock, and Alan Dallas.
they were like uh this oak allen he kept threatening him with bloody uh he cut trees down near him and the trees would fall like almost on top of him he would threaten him with a chainsaw and all sorts of shit so it seems like there was a bit of hostility going on at this time but anyway so they were out just there's an apache reservation um where these guys were busy uh cutting down the trees and what do we know about the american indians and aliens it's like frequent they they
yeah well that's what old um stephen greer says that it's uh like you have to be now even didn't there was also something with the cia or whatever it's like all of the alien abductions when you go back to it it's always some um native american genome inside the like if they check the person's genome did you hear about that i think it was stephen greer that said that okay well maybe it was that um you must go check that like there's a whole thing about it that the mostly the like all of the abductions that have been taking place you if you go get their dna there's always There's always Native American blood in there or DNA.
Look, the whole thing makes sense to me because the American Indians, the alien thing for them, they call them Star Brothers.
I mean, they've been dealing with the star beings or the star brothers, whatever you want to call it, for freaking since time immemorial, since they can remember.
but remember when we had our samantha samantha on what was her surname she like wrote that book about out-of-body experiences then she went to mongolia to like look it's you know she's an anthropologist or whatever then she went and studied the shamans there mongolia and the shamans there consider when you start seeing greys or like whatever alien things they say it's a shamanic like opening like it's like you know in south africa here when the shamans here they're called sangomas If you start becoming a Sangome, you start having visions or whatever and seeing things and predicting things or whatever, then you say you've got a calling, a calling sickness.
But in Mongolia, they said to her that if you start seeing aliens in that, it's a calling to become a shaman.
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