Oct 19, 2026 · 47 min · 15 segments
Can Abdul El-Sayed really win in Michigan? If he does, what should the Democratic Party learn from this Senate race? And, what do Trump and El-Sayed have in common? Katty Kay is joined by former…
Ron FournierGuest
Katty KayHost
Anthony ScaramucciHost
I went to some No Kings rallies and met a bunch of Michiganders, people who are trying to get the vote out on the Democratic side.
I came away from my trip thinking this is a closer race than... than I had thought it was and probably than most Democrats thought it was going to be.
Yeah, I think this entire race, all the congressional races, are more likely than not to be tighter than we think because we do have a trend with President Trump and his supporters overperforming in the polls.
That trend could reverse itself this year if instead of a quiet Republican surge, we have what Charlie Cook I think very accurately calls a red undertow if a lot of Republicans stay home.
But I've always been, you know, as you know, I used to call races at the AP and at the Associated Press, one of the places I worked at in Washington.
And my view was always to assume every race is really close until you're counting the ballots.
I went to some No Kings rallies and met a bunch of Michiganders, people who are trying to get the vote out on the Democratic side.
I came away from my trip thinking this is a closer race than... than I had thought it was and probably than most Democrats thought it was going to be.
Yeah, I think this entire race, all the congressional races, are more likely than not to be tighter than we think because we do have a trend with President Trump and his supporters overperforming in the polls.
That trend could reverse itself this year if instead of a quiet Republican surge, we have what Charlie Cook I think very accurately calls a red undertow if a lot of Republicans stay home.
But I've always been, you know, as you know, I used to call races at the AP and at the Associated Press, one of the places I worked at in Washington.
And my view was always to assume every race is really close until you're counting the ballots.
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