Jun 24, 2026 · 1 hr 43 min · 12 segments
In this episode of the podcast, I sit down with airline First Officer and OCB bikini competitor Kait Shaffery to discuss her journey through aviation and fitness. From growing up in a small Arizona…
Kait ShafferyGuest
Ben ToddHost
Something that I am continuously seeing in exceptional pilots is that they kind of like what you've said before is like always learning.

But I mean, if you like... are already convinced that you know it all, like you've already basically closed off your mind to learning more and becoming better, if that makes sense.
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Something that I am continuously seeing in exceptional pilots is that they kind of like what you've said before is like always learning.

But I mean, if you like... are already convinced that you know it all, like you've already basically closed off your mind to learning more and becoming better, if that makes sense.