Sep 21, 2026 · 59 min · 15 segments
This week on the Labor & Energy Show w/JDoc & Krausey, Andrew Bray of the National Association of Landscape Professionals (NALP) joins the show to discuss California’s Small Off-Road Engine (SORE)…
Andrew BrayGuest
Joe KrauseHost
And back here on the Labor and Energy Show, just a couple of minutes remaining here on the Labor and Energy Show with J-Doc and Krause.

And J-Doc, the conversation today really is applicable to everyone listening to the Labor and Energy Show.

what was talked about today very good job by you today and a special thanks to andrew as well
yeah joe i mean you know you one of the things and it's a common thread here and with with all these uh evie mandates is that um in a sense like you said at the beginning of the show the common sense of you know that even even even the one you know the the uh the one with the ships okay the the the vessels and the ships thankfully that got voted down yesterday but the fact of the matter is is that there was no applicable way now that would have been a little different because they would have been finding big companies immediately okay and by the way maybe there would be finding small you know landscaping companies people that are out there like you heard andrew talk about Some companies have hundreds of people, but mostly, you know, you're talking about small shops, two, three, four, and finding them, okay? And then it's just the practicality.
You just can't push a button and expect an industry that does not have the infrastructure.
All the examples that Andrew gave, okay, are... are great examples of a lot of the things we've talked about in the past.
I mean, people are not, everybody's for lowering emissions and all those things, but trying to push a button and put people out of business and family sustaining jobs, it's just not practical.
And obviously, people got to get out there and get their elected officials and voice their opinions.
And hopefully, you know, we were able to give them some information that will help.

And back here on the Labor and Energy Show, just a couple of minutes remaining here on the Labor and Energy Show with J-Doc and Krause.

And J-Doc, the conversation today really is applicable to everyone listening to the Labor and Energy Show.

what was talked about today very good job by you today and a special thanks to andrew as well
yeah joe i mean you know you one of the things and it's a common thread here and with with all these uh evie mandates is that um in a sense like you said at the beginning of the show the common sense of you know that even even even the one you know the the uh the one with the ships okay the the the vessels and the ships thankfully that got voted down yesterday but the fact of the matter is is that there was no applicable way now that would have been a little different because they would have been finding big companies immediately okay and by the way maybe there would be finding small you know landscaping companies people that are out there like you heard andrew talk about Some companies have hundreds of people, but mostly, you know, you're talking about small shops, two, three, four, and finding them, okay? And then it's just the practicality.
You just can't push a button and expect an industry that does not have the infrastructure.
All the examples that Andrew gave, okay, are... are great examples of a lot of the things we've talked about in the past.
I mean, people are not, everybody's for lowering emissions and all those things, but trying to push a button and put people out of business and family sustaining jobs, it's just not practical.
And obviously, people got to get out there and get their elected officials and voice their opinions.
And hopefully, you know, we were able to give them some information that will help.
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