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Andrew Bray

Sep 24, 2026

J-DocHOST
11:25
In layman's terms, what exactly does the sewer rule do?
11:30
Yeah, let's dig into this here, Joe, because as I said, we're going back almost a decade.
11:35
So back in 2018, 2019, California signaled that they wanted to achieve some ambitious emission standards and they wanted to run the gambit on everything.
11:47
Obviously, cars and fleets and other large vehicles were getting more of the attention.
11:52
But what they started really pushing was this ban on the sale, not the use, the sale, of all soar and that's basically engines that are 25 cc or less which basically is almost anything you'd be using from an outdoor power equipment institute for the landscape industry so think your rider mowers your weed whackers your hedge trimmers you know chainsaws all of them would be would fall under the rule And once enacted, couldn't purchase that equipment in California.
12:25
California CARB, which is the California Air Resource Board, approves the engines before they can be sold in the marketplace in California.
12:33
And if you were basically not electric, they weren't going to approve your engine for sale past model year 2024.

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J-DocHOST
44:58
If that's the case, you know, how can SOAR still have consequences outside of California?
J-DocHOST
11:25
In layman's terms, what exactly does the sewer rule do?
11:30
Yeah, let's dig into this here, Joe, because as I said, we're going back almost a decade.
11:35
So back in 2018, 2019, California signaled that they wanted to achieve some ambitious emission standards and they wanted to run the gambit on everything.
11:47
Obviously, cars and fleets and other large vehicles were getting more of the attention.
11:52
But what they started really pushing was this ban on the sale, not the use, the sale, of all soar and that's basically engines that are 25 cc or less which basically is almost anything you'd be using from an outdoor power equipment institute for the landscape industry so think your rider mowers your weed whackers your hedge trimmers you know chainsaws all of them would be would fall under the rule And once enacted, couldn't purchase that equipment in California.
12:25
California CARB, which is the California Air Resource Board, approves the engines before they can be sold in the marketplace in California.
12:33
And if you were basically not electric, they weren't going to approve your engine for sale past model year 2024.

32 MINS LATER

J-DocHOST
44:58
If that's the case, you know, how can SOAR still have consequences outside of California?
4:17
What exactly is the program? Can you give us a Reader's Digest version?
4:20
Sure.
4:21
We'll go right back to the basics.
4:22
So back in the early 90s, it was actually the last time we've actually kind of come close to an immigration overhaul.
4:29
It happened in the late 80s, and then this guest worker program was amended in the early 90s.
4:34
And so you've probably heard of H-2A, H-1A, H-2B.
4:39
They're all in the same vein, but H-2B is specific and unique to our industry.

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25:39
You're right.

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