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Sep 24, 2026
An EV Mandate of Another Sort: Andrew Bray on California’s SORE Rule, Jobs & the Nationwide Impact
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11:35
11:47
11:52
12:25
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11:25J-DocHOST
In layman's terms, what exactly does the sewer rule do?

Andrew BrayGUEST
Yeah, let's dig into this here, Joe, because as I said, we're going back almost a decade.

Andrew BrayGUEST
So back in 2018, 2019, California signaled that they wanted to achieve some ambitious emission standards and they wanted to run the gambit on everything.

Andrew BrayGUEST
Obviously, cars and fleets and other large vehicles were getting more of the attention.

Andrew BrayGUEST
But what they started really pushing was this ban on the sale, not the use, the sale, of all soar and that's basically engines that are 25 cc or less which basically is almost anything you'd be using from an outdoor power equipment institute for the landscape industry so think your rider mowers your weed whackers your hedge trimmers you know chainsaws all of them would be would fall under the rule And once enacted, couldn't purchase that equipment in California.

Andrew BrayGUEST
California CARB, which is the California Air Resource Board, approves the engines before they can be sold in the marketplace in California.

Andrew BrayGUEST
And if you were basically not electric, they weren't going to approve your engine for sale past model year 2024.
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44:58J-DocHOST
If that's the case, you know, how can SOAR still have consequences outside of California?
An EV Mandate of Another Sort: Andrew Bray on California’s SORE Rule, Jobs & the Nationwide Impact
11:30
11:35
11:47
11:52
12:25
12:33
J
11:25J-DocHOST
In layman's terms, what exactly does the sewer rule do?

Andrew BrayGUEST
Yeah, let's dig into this here, Joe, because as I said, we're going back almost a decade.

Andrew BrayGUEST
So back in 2018, 2019, California signaled that they wanted to achieve some ambitious emission standards and they wanted to run the gambit on everything.

Andrew BrayGUEST
Obviously, cars and fleets and other large vehicles were getting more of the attention.

Andrew BrayGUEST
But what they started really pushing was this ban on the sale, not the use, the sale, of all soar and that's basically engines that are 25 cc or less which basically is almost anything you'd be using from an outdoor power equipment institute for the landscape industry so think your rider mowers your weed whackers your hedge trimmers you know chainsaws all of them would be would fall under the rule And once enacted, couldn't purchase that equipment in California.

Andrew BrayGUEST
California CARB, which is the California Air Resource Board, approves the engines before they can be sold in the marketplace in California.

Andrew BrayGUEST
And if you were basically not electric, they weren't going to approve your engine for sale past model year 2024.
32 MINS LATER
J
44:58J-DocHOST
If that's the case, you know, how can SOAR still have consequences outside of California?
Interview Series: Andrew Bray on how the Temporary Visa Program Works, and Doesn't Work, for Landscaping Companies
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Andrew BrayGUEST
So back in the early 90s, it was actually the last time we've actually kind of come close to an immigration overhaul.

Andrew BrayGUEST
It happened in the late 80s, and then this guest worker program was amended in the early 90s.
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