Why This Saskatchewan Conservative Is Optimistic About Mark Carney | H&H Ep. 43

So, Jeremy, the reality is that you have served under, in all this time in provincial politics, you've probably served under two of the most successful longstanding premiers, not just in Saskatchewan, but nationally.

When we talk about Brad Wall and Scott Moe, I mean, super impressive numbers, continued election wins.

uh i mean brad wall i mean jesus even his pr was fantastic like i remember those banjo bowl uh stuff stuff used to do in manitoba it was fantastic um but maybe just tell us now because again these are names that are known obviously nationally, they're known here.

Maybe talk a little bit about working for them both, maybe the similarities, the differences, because these are things I'm hoping our listeners and hopefully some of our political colleagues listen, because some of the things that you'll say now are things they should keep in mind, because again, it's work for them.

And I always said that Saskatchewan was very similar to Newfoundland and Labrador, very similar mindset in people.

And so I think the lessons could be very important here.

Yeah, well, I appreciate that observation.

You're entirely right.

So we did an event last week.

We flew up to a uranium mine groundbreaking, which will be the largest uranium mine in the world, hugely significant investment in northern Saskatchewan.

So on that flight up, NextGen is the name of the company, had invited a number of folks who were quite involved in getting to the point of the groundbreaking.

So on the plane, were Stephen Harper, Brad Wall, Scott Moe, myself, and a federal liberal cabinet minister who had been the long-term MLA in northern Saskatchewan.

It was actually the first time that Brad, or at least this is what was related, that Brad and Stephen and Scott were together.

And I was the only one that served under all of them as a member of their caucus.

And served on Stephen's staff.

So really have got kind of an insight into political leadership in that context, which has made me very clear that I never want to do that job in any way, shape, or form.

But being a supporter and help to those gentlemen has been highly instructive.

I would say this just on your question with regard to political leadership and the differences.

All of them are very different.

All of them had very different approaches to the job.

I would say that, you know, Stephen, very detail oriented, you know, very, you know, I think it's probably overrated, like how, you know, he ruled with a tough fist.

Like it was more predicated on respect from caucus, how he managed the cabinet.

But the takeaway politically is you can't actually you can't hide who you actually are.

One of my fundamental takeaways from having been around political leaders my entire life is you have to embrace it.

And you can't kind of image makeovers and all of this sort of talk that you sometimes hear from behind the scenes folks and strategists that if only you're wearing kind of a different tie or using different phraseology.