Progressive Conservative Party of Canada

I mean, it does seem like a lot of mainstream politics in North America these days is this attempt... to bring together these like different ruling class factions uh plus like try to tack on any kind of like populist messaging that you can to try to get like disaffected workers on board with this kind of like this weird uneasy mixture of conservative ideas which i mean this is not unique to quebec or canada or the united states right like conservatism in general has always had this like strange mixture of ideas right like from like you know, like a monarchist libertarian, right? Like this is, this is like a, an odd fusion of ideas, um, in, in many ways, or like, you know, the fact that there's like these religious types versus like the tech Lords, right? Like these are, these are in uneasy, like tension with one another.

And yeah, I mean, we see in Quebec, like the liberal party, the conservative party and the CAC all doing this to some extent or another, right? Like And the leader of the Liberal Party, Charlie Billion, as I like to call him, he says that he models his politics on the old Progressive Conservative Party, which is just like center-right, straight-ahead conservatism, like North American classical conservatism.

And so like the daylight between these parties is like so minimal, you know? And then like the CAC that is like the, basically was the business wing of the Patsy Quebecois that like split off to become autonomous because they were sick of like trying to base everything around whether or not to separate Quebec from Canada, you know? And they're all, they're all dancing this dance, like trying to get, trying to create a stable political identity out of like all these different sort of like center right to right wing political ideas.

Yeah, and now that the PQ has said that it wouldn't go into a referendum until there's good condition on the Washington side, I mean, you know, the differences between the parties are quite thin.

and uh we've never seen

anything like it before you know the province is in uh new territory that's where we got to watch it a little too uh Jacqueline saying, we got rid of the Progressive Conservative Party because they were corrupt.

Do we need a repeat? Well, I don't see corruption in the UCP party.

I see some competency issues.

That's I think that's what ended up happening from that one.

The budget defeat triggered the election.

Clark and the Progressive Conservatives lost it handily.

The liberals who won a majority government back and returned to power.

Nineteen seventy nine throwback Thursday.

He's acknowledging that this has been a long-standing, kind of, kind of bubbling either under the surface and maybe now it feels like bubbling over the pot.

You know, Ted and I, uh, we both, uh, ran for the leadership of, uh, the Progressive Conservative Party in 2011.

We're a lot more alike than we are different, and, uh, I have a lot of respect for, uh, his views and his perspectives.

And so that's the reason why I wanted him to write the opening chapter.

Much has been made about the bipartisan nature of this summit.

Obviously, you've got roots in the Progressive Conservative Party in this province.

Former Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper did the closing remarks, and we have a Liberal Prime Minister all sort of rowing in the same direction.

What do you make of that aspect of things?