The Exam Room by the Physicians Committee
Oct 19, 2026 · 51 min · 13 segments
Before you buy another gut-health product, hear what the human research actually found. Stanford nutrition scientist Christopher Gardner, PhD, explains the evidence on fiber, fermented foods, and…
Chuck CarrollHost
And, like, this is kind of the same thing, you know? And it's no surprise to me that you guys stumbled on fiber and fermented foods.

I didn't even know what the, I thought like he was making up a word, fiber maxing.

But for you to go from like what average person gets, what, 13, 15 grams, something like that a day to like...
So there are actually, so my colleagues, the Sonnenbergs work with the Hadza and some other hunter gatherer tribes who eat more than a hundred grams of fiber a day.

And, like, this is kind of the same thing, you know? And it's no surprise to me that you guys stumbled on fiber and fermented foods.

I didn't even know what the, I thought like he was making up a word, fiber maxing.

But for you to go from like what average person gets, what, 13, 15 grams, something like that a day to like...
So there are actually, so my colleagues, the Sonnenbergs work with the Hadza and some other hunter gatherer tribes who eat more than a hundred grams of fiber a day.
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