Jun 15, 2026 · 1 hr 24 min · 19 segments
In a twist to 'normal jogging' at The Duratus Mind Podcast, Gaz was interviewed by Ben Ryan for Ben's podcast. But due to Ben's new role at Brentford FC he won't be able to release podcasts for the…
Garry BanfordGuest
Ben RyanHost
I had an older sister, four years older than me, which I've come to realize now.

taught me an awful lot when I was growing up of how to lose because naturally everything we did because she was so much older than me she used to beat me everything to a certain point and I became quite comfortable at learning but losing at the same time and I think that taught me a certain that's not tough that's not you know people live really hard lives I was really fortunate with my parents and the home that we lived in, it was really comfortable.

It wasn't tough, but I do realize that those formative years when I was growing up, being that younger child and constantly getting beat and knocked back was a real good lesson for me growing up to the point where I joined the military, joined the Marines.

And again, what's interesting, or I've come to realize and pick this, that I could have easily have selected any other military organization to go into.

But I knew to join the military, if I'd wanted to realize that dream, that I had to choose something quite crunchy and more difficult, I could have chosen easier option.

And there's a golden thread I've come to realize with what I've chosen to do of not taking that easy option and choosing what you can see as the hardest option.

You learn so much more so yes the marines and one of the things the marines do with civilians when they young men when they come off the streets and women now is give them thousands and thousands of new experiences and how you respond to those experiences shape how you well you do in your career in basic training in the military and then subsequently in the marines in general and i'm a firm believer that i think we spoke about it before that experiences times a thousand makes experience and there's no shortcut to experience to be a Royal Marines Commando you need thousands of experiences to be able to wear that beret authentically and say I am that otherwise if you've shortcutted that you don't feel authentic there's stress within that facade that you've got to wear because You're not living your ideal self.

I had an older sister, four years older than me, which I've come to realize now.

taught me an awful lot when I was growing up of how to lose because naturally everything we did because she was so much older than me she used to beat me everything to a certain point and I became quite comfortable at learning but losing at the same time and I think that taught me a certain that's not tough that's not you know people live really hard lives I was really fortunate with my parents and the home that we lived in, it was really comfortable.

It wasn't tough, but I do realize that those formative years when I was growing up, being that younger child and constantly getting beat and knocked back was a real good lesson for me growing up to the point where I joined the military, joined the Marines.

And again, what's interesting, or I've come to realize and pick this, that I could have easily have selected any other military organization to go into.

But I knew to join the military, if I'd wanted to realize that dream, that I had to choose something quite crunchy and more difficult, I could have chosen easier option.

And there's a golden thread I've come to realize with what I've chosen to do of not taking that easy option and choosing what you can see as the hardest option.

You learn so much more so yes the marines and one of the things the marines do with civilians when they young men when they come off the streets and women now is give them thousands and thousands of new experiences and how you respond to those experiences shape how you well you do in your career in basic training in the military and then subsequently in the marines in general and i'm a firm believer that i think we spoke about it before that experiences times a thousand makes experience and there's no shortcut to experience to be a Royal Marines Commando you need thousands of experiences to be able to wear that beret authentically and say I am that otherwise if you've shortcutted that you don't feel authentic there's stress within that facade that you've got to wear because You're not living your ideal self.
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