Sustainable Packaging with Cory Connors presented by Atlantic Packaging
Oct 4, 2026 · 31 min · 10 segments
This episode kicks off with a special announcement brought to you from See Change Sessions 2026. Sander Defruyt of the Ellen MacArthur Foundation and today's guest, Allison Lin of Mars, discuss the…
Allison LinGuest
Cory ConnorsHost
Can you talk to us about that and what's happened and maybe what could happen in the future?

So for those who don't know, a few years ago, there was a UNEP decree to negotiate a plastics treaty, a global plastics treaty.

So I think that's really important context in terms of the timing that was set out at the beginning of this whole process.

There's a lot of discussion on what is the scope? Is it full life cycle or is it really end of life and waste management? There's a lot of discussion on different definitions.

But I think it's important to recognize that, again, this is already still a very short period of time to negotiate a multilateral agreement.

exciting, who's bringing new energy into this space and doing a lot of what they call intersessional work.

So between the formal sessions, a lot of the prep work and discussions that can happen in between sessions, which is very positive.

I'm part of what's called the Business Coalition for Global Plastics Treaty that's convened by Ellen MacArthur Foundation and WWF.

And we're a group of businesses who want an ambitious, implementable Plastics Treaty, and we've been really active in the whole Plastics Treaty process, and we remain active and remain supportive of the governments.

I think what's also important for folks to remember is that just through the Plastics Treaty process, we've been able to elevate packaging sustainability and what good legislation looks like in packaging sustainability throughout the series of discussions in a way that we couldn't without the negotiation process, right? We have hundreds and hundreds of government officials from multiple countries who And we're able to talk to them about what does good EPR look like? What does good waste management systems look like? How do we re-invent spending for waste management so that it's not being spent on fixing potholes or random other stuff? And how do we incentivize the reduction, reuse, recycling industry and infrastructure with good policy? So this has been all happening in parallel, and we are seeing countries and in the U.S.

So I think it's really important to keep that top of mind that while the U.N. treaty process continues on and we remain fully supportive of it, in parallel, there's also this momentum around legislation at the national and state level that I think has been very positively influenced by the treaty process.

Yes, a lot of criticism about this process because it hasn't come to fruition yet.

Can you talk to us about that and what's happened and maybe what could happen in the future?

So for those who don't know, a few years ago, there was a UNEP decree to negotiate a plastics treaty, a global plastics treaty.

So I think that's really important context in terms of the timing that was set out at the beginning of this whole process.

There's a lot of discussion on what is the scope? Is it full life cycle or is it really end of life and waste management? There's a lot of discussion on different definitions.

But I think it's important to recognize that, again, this is already still a very short period of time to negotiate a multilateral agreement.

exciting, who's bringing new energy into this space and doing a lot of what they call intersessional work.

So between the formal sessions, a lot of the prep work and discussions that can happen in between sessions, which is very positive.

I'm part of what's called the Business Coalition for Global Plastics Treaty that's convened by Ellen MacArthur Foundation and WWF.

And we're a group of businesses who want an ambitious, implementable Plastics Treaty, and we've been really active in the whole Plastics Treaty process, and we remain active and remain supportive of the governments.

I think what's also important for folks to remember is that just through the Plastics Treaty process, we've been able to elevate packaging sustainability and what good legislation looks like in packaging sustainability throughout the series of discussions in a way that we couldn't without the negotiation process, right? We have hundreds and hundreds of government officials from multiple countries who And we're able to talk to them about what does good EPR look like? What does good waste management systems look like? How do we re-invent spending for waste management so that it's not being spent on fixing potholes or random other stuff? And how do we incentivize the reduction, reuse, recycling industry and infrastructure with good policy? So this has been all happening in parallel, and we are seeing countries and in the U.S.

So I think it's really important to keep that top of mind that while the U.N. treaty process continues on and we remain fully supportive of it, in parallel, there's also this momentum around legislation at the national and state level that I think has been very positively influenced by the treaty process.

Yes, a lot of criticism about this process because it hasn't come to fruition yet.
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