Aug 13, 2026 · 56 min · 12 segments
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And I suppose it was just really as I was sort of researching, continuing researching the asset handling, uh, MI5, the intelligence services, um, and even, uh, CHIS as well.
Uh, I mean, I, I have a lot of paperwork here where I was going to start talking about, uh, asset handling in relation to the law legacy issues.
Uh, also have a branch about CHIS, um, you know, the Covert Human Intelligence Sources, uh, all about RIPA, uh, the use of RIPA software that we use in RIPA and has been used in RIPA and has even been exploited, um, by, um, a number of colleagues in relation to journalists, et cetera.
But then I, I sort of got the feeling that I'm just really straying into what journalists do and what a c- uh, I suppose social and military historians do.
And, uh, also, uh, as I've said before, like, Northern Ireland and the Troubles is probably one of the most analyzed geographical, um, regions, um, and conflict regions in the world.
I mean, the amount of stuff that's continues to come out about the Troubles, uh, is mind-boggling.
And of course, I guess as I was, uh, researching about the Troubles, uh, researching about assets, um, and just looking at how we used intelligence in relation to, um, assets, you know, and r- relation to, you know, criminal conduct of assets, how we sort of managed that in the past, um, political sensitivities, the regulation of assets, um, and collusion, um, and, you know, investigations, how we work with CID, et cetera.
And the, and the big, um, uh, uh, I suppose, uh, atrocities or murders, as it were, where assets have been, um, involved and how that was all handled.
I was talking to a couple of guys, ex, um, intelligence services, you know, both police, um, and both, uh, I suppose government, as it were.
Yeah, Oxford University's published, um, a recent paper, a rec- recent thesis, um, just looking at steak knife asset handling and stuff as well.
And I was sort of going through it and some of the, I suppose the footnotes, uh, where it sort of came to talk about an- anonymous sources.
Um, from what the footnotes were kind of saying in relation to the anonymous sources, I kind of started recognizing, um, these anonymous sources.
Um, any- anyway, I got talking to some colleagues, uh, from the intelligence services, and it started off about this paper.
Um, and it turns out that one of them had been, uh, contributing, uh, to the researcher, and he'd actually allowed the researcher to use his own name in relation to some, um, I, I suppose quotes, uh, that he's given them.
Um, but as well as that, the quotes that he's given them that he doesn't want to use his name, he's just gone down as anonymous source.
Um, and then another guy, as I say, I work with is actually related, um, to the researcher who published this paper.
And to be honest with you, even reading through the paper, even about, uh, I suppose a third of the way through, it, you know, it becomes quite evident.
And I suppose it was just really as I was sort of researching, continuing researching the asset handling, uh, MI5, the intelligence services, um, and even, uh, CHIS as well.
Uh, I mean, I, I have a lot of paperwork here where I was going to start talking about, uh, asset handling in relation to the law legacy issues.
Uh, also have a branch about CHIS, um, you know, the Covert Human Intelligence Sources, uh, all about RIPA, uh, the use of RIPA software that we use in RIPA and has been used in RIPA and has even been exploited, um, by, um, a number of colleagues in relation to journalists, et cetera.
But then I, I sort of got the feeling that I'm just really straying into what journalists do and what a c- uh, I suppose social and military historians do.
And, uh, also, uh, as I've said before, like, Northern Ireland and the Troubles is probably one of the most analyzed geographical, um, regions, um, and conflict regions in the world.
I mean, the amount of stuff that's continues to come out about the Troubles, uh, is mind-boggling.
And of course, I guess as I was, uh, researching about the Troubles, uh, researching about assets, um, and just looking at how we used intelligence in relation to, um, assets, you know, and r- relation to, you know, criminal conduct of assets, how we sort of managed that in the past, um, political sensitivities, the regulation of assets, um, and collusion, um, and, you know, investigations, how we work with CID, et cetera.
And the, and the big, um, uh, uh, I suppose, uh, atrocities or murders, as it were, where assets have been, um, involved and how that was all handled.
I was talking to a couple of guys, ex, um, intelligence services, you know, both police, um, and both, uh, I suppose government, as it were.
Yeah, Oxford University's published, um, a recent paper, a rec- recent thesis, um, just looking at steak knife asset handling and stuff as well.
And I was sort of going through it and some of the, I suppose the footnotes, uh, where it sort of came to talk about an- anonymous sources.
Um, from what the footnotes were kind of saying in relation to the anonymous sources, I kind of started recognizing, um, these anonymous sources.
Um, any- anyway, I got talking to some colleagues, uh, from the intelligence services, and it started off about this paper.
Um, and it turns out that one of them had been, uh, contributing, uh, to the researcher, and he'd actually allowed the researcher to use his own name in relation to some, um, I, I suppose quotes, uh, that he's given them.
Um, but as well as that, the quotes that he's given them that he doesn't want to use his name, he's just gone down as anonymous source.
Um, and then another guy, as I say, I work with is actually related, um, to the researcher who published this paper.
And to be honest with you, even reading through the paper, even about, uh, I suppose a third of the way through, it, you know, it becomes quite evident.
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