Oct 31, 2026 · 39 min · 9 segments
David Dodge and John Manley helped bring Mark Carney into public service. Now they have a budget warning: borrowing to build a stronger economy could leave Canada with less room to respond to the next…
David DodgeGuest
Allan GreggHost
Edward GreensponHost
I think they matter because, you know, governments have to come to a bunch of decisions.

You know, I see spending here and spending there and, you know, a $2 billion investment here and a $3 billion investment there.

The Globe and Mail had a piece last weekend about the mining industry and, you know, various public investments from various agencies and the government into there.

What is the government up to, and what is it saying, and how does it pull it together? So it doesn't matter as much as it did.

My year is covering budgets where the transition period between the budget is so sank or sank that if somebody takes a picture while you're flipping the pages and showing off your shoes— which was Marc Lalonde, then you might have to resign.

And they rushed that budget out that night because otherwise you'd have to resign.

And then they were getting to Paul Martin's period where he was shaping budgets, right? He was shaping public opinion before, you know, particularly before the great 1995 election.

Um, budget, you know, David and, uh, and John could either speak much more to this, but it was so exciting.

You went into this lockup, this big room, you had to give up your cell phone.

Um, there were lots of, you know, smart people spinning you in this way and spinning you that way.

And the fact that you couldn't leak any of this information, if you did, you got into trouble, was testament to just how singularly important these budgets are.

We heard at the investment summit, you know, the announcement of the mega deficit, mega deduction in terms of tax.

in this budget the minister of finance is going to give a speech on monday i can pretty much guarantee he'll foreshadow everything that we're going to hear uh in thursday part of that leaking david and john is we're hearing now that this is going to be a growth competition budget designed to create an investment super cycle what are they talking about there david

Well, I don't think this is any different than what Mark Carney's been talking about since he became prime minister.

I think they matter because, you know, governments have to come to a bunch of decisions.

You know, I see spending here and spending there and, you know, a $2 billion investment here and a $3 billion investment there.

The Globe and Mail had a piece last weekend about the mining industry and, you know, various public investments from various agencies and the government into there.

What is the government up to, and what is it saying, and how does it pull it together? So it doesn't matter as much as it did.

My year is covering budgets where the transition period between the budget is so sank or sank that if somebody takes a picture while you're flipping the pages and showing off your shoes— which was Marc Lalonde, then you might have to resign.

And they rushed that budget out that night because otherwise you'd have to resign.

And then they were getting to Paul Martin's period where he was shaping budgets, right? He was shaping public opinion before, you know, particularly before the great 1995 election.

Um, budget, you know, David and, uh, and John could either speak much more to this, but it was so exciting.

You went into this lockup, this big room, you had to give up your cell phone.

Um, there were lots of, you know, smart people spinning you in this way and spinning you that way.

And the fact that you couldn't leak any of this information, if you did, you got into trouble, was testament to just how singularly important these budgets are.

We heard at the investment summit, you know, the announcement of the mega deficit, mega deduction in terms of tax.

in this budget the minister of finance is going to give a speech on monday i can pretty much guarantee he'll foreshadow everything that we're going to hear uh in thursday part of that leaking david and john is we're hearing now that this is going to be a growth competition budget designed to create an investment super cycle what are they talking about there david

Well, I don't think this is any different than what Mark Carney's been talking about since he became prime minister.
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