Sep 8, 2026 · 57 min · 12 segments
What would your business look like if every decision no longer had to come through you? David Jenyns, creator of SYSTEMology and author of Systems Champion, joins Joseph Varghese to explore how…
David JenynsGuestJoseph VargheseHostWe talked earlier, one of your mentors in the space over the years, and you wrote the forward to your first book, Michael Gerber.
He kind of challenged me 20 years ago to get out of my own way and build what I built with success circles.
Gina Whitman wrote the forward, or he wrote part of the testimonial in your current book.
It's so wonderful that there are frameworks that are out there that really support entrepreneurs to thrive, to get out of their own way.
I think they're special business owners because they, one, they create a lot of opportunities for others around them and they really solve some of the biggest problems.
And I think, what it means to be a business owner is taking almost like some sort of ownership of your life.
We talked earlier, one of your mentors in the space over the years, and you wrote the forward to your first book, Michael Gerber.
He kind of challenged me 20 years ago to get out of my own way and build what I built with success circles.
Gina Whitman wrote the forward, or he wrote part of the testimonial in your current book.
It's so wonderful that there are frameworks that are out there that really support entrepreneurs to thrive, to get out of their own way.
I think they're special business owners because they, one, they create a lot of opportunities for others around them and they really solve some of the biggest problems.
And I think, what it means to be a business owner is taking almost like some sort of ownership of your life.
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