Doug Van DornGuestAdamHostAnd I want to talk a little bit about Daniel 2, verse 43, where it says this, "'They shall mingle themselves with the seed of men.'" He's not referencing Genesis 6, but He's talking about a future yet to come.
And is this the iron and clay picture that we get in his dreams and how he's interpreting it? Is Daniel thinking about the days of Noah as Jesus suggests it? meaning that ultimately there is going to be a resurgence of the possibility of dehumanizing or stripping the image of God from man.
And once again, it's the seed war, seed of the woman, seed of the serpent.
Is this something that we can attach that verse to in verse 43, chapter 2? What do you think about that, Doug?

Yeah, when you first asked me this a few days ago, I was like, man, I don't know how to answer this.

So to me, I do think that there is certainly a dehumanizing component to what's happening in our world right now in so many of the ways that you directly talked about.

But there are kind of Nephilim hunters or whatever out there, these Christians that are really into this topic that we'll use this verse to talk about the return of the Nephilim and all kinds of stuff.

I mean, this is an idol after all that we're talking about and idols are representations of the gods.

But when it talks about they mingling, um, In order for it to be some sort of a Genesis 6 thing, you would have to have angels somewhere in the context, and you just don't.
don't.

So the they there seems to refer to kings, and it would be pretty tough to me to make that exegetically compelling from that verse.

But that doesn't mean that the second part of what you asked couldn't be true.

On other grounds, and it doesn't even mean that I don't think that there's nothing weird about that verse.

It's just that I wouldn't take that verse anywhere near as far as a lot of people are taking it.
Yeah.
we can probably say with certainty that God flooded the earth essentially to retain the image of God in man.

We never really talked about that because the idea that Noah is blameless in his generations is very...
And I want to talk a little bit about Daniel 2, verse 43, where it says this, "'They shall mingle themselves with the seed of men.'" He's not referencing Genesis 6, but He's talking about a future yet to come.
And is this the iron and clay picture that we get in his dreams and how he's interpreting it? Is Daniel thinking about the days of Noah as Jesus suggests it? meaning that ultimately there is going to be a resurgence of the possibility of dehumanizing or stripping the image of God from man.
And once again, it's the seed war, seed of the woman, seed of the serpent.
Is this something that we can attach that verse to in verse 43, chapter 2? What do you think about that, Doug?

Yeah, when you first asked me this a few days ago, I was like, man, I don't know how to answer this.

So to me, I do think that there is certainly a dehumanizing component to what's happening in our world right now in so many of the ways that you directly talked about.

But there are kind of Nephilim hunters or whatever out there, these Christians that are really into this topic that we'll use this verse to talk about the return of the Nephilim and all kinds of stuff.

I mean, this is an idol after all that we're talking about and idols are representations of the gods.

But when it talks about they mingling, um, In order for it to be some sort of a Genesis 6 thing, you would have to have angels somewhere in the context, and you just don't.
don't.

So the they there seems to refer to kings, and it would be pretty tough to me to make that exegetically compelling from that verse.

But that doesn't mean that the second part of what you asked couldn't be true.

On other grounds, and it doesn't even mean that I don't think that there's nothing weird about that verse.

It's just that I wouldn't take that verse anywhere near as far as a lot of people are taking it.
Yeah.
we can probably say with certainty that God flooded the earth essentially to retain the image of God in man.

We never really talked about that because the idea that Noah is blameless in his generations is very...
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