Jun 4, 2026 · 1 hr 7 min · 11 segments
'Hundreds of people are coming to my events, many of them Jewish, and they tell me I gave them their ancestors back' Molly Crabapple is an Emmy Award-winning artist, author and journalist. Her new…
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And they even at one point try to lead a campaign to defund the Bund's school system, which does not have any modern resonances at all.
But that's something also interesting because I guess the ideological war that happened between the Zionists and the Bund, if you will.
um they ended up really smearing or trying to the zionists i mean trying to smear their name they're calling them terrorists calling themselves hating jews
exactly they say that their schools are turning out enemies of zion and there's even an instance i found where zionists beat up a bunda city councilman in vilna with baseball bats in 1929
And then there was the Ben Gurion quote where he he's the he's the founder and the first prime minister of Israel, where he said that he told the Bundes, I think he was in an argument with someone and he said, we have weapons and we'll kill you like dogs.
The really the turn of the century before Ben-Gurion becomes Ben-Gurion, it's in Płansk, which is the Polish miserable little town that he's from, where he's having a public debate with a Buddhist in a synagogue.
And he loses the debate in part because he has an annoying high pitched voice that no one likes.
And instead of, you know, taking the L like a normal person, he starts screaming, we have weapons and we'll shoot you down like dogs.
And if ever there was something that prefigures everything that happens afterwards, it's this very young Ben-Gurion, who I think is still going by the name David Brown, screaming, we have weapons and we will shoot you down like dogs because he lost an argument and didn't like the feeling.
The whole thing about, you know, I guess the smear campaign, the name calling, the labels, I mean, there's a lot of parallels, which you can draw to today.
I mean, my social media is unusable right now because I have so many lunatics in my comments section screaming at me and making conspiracies about me or also laughing about the deaths of the Bundists in the Holocaust.
I have comments that over and over again, LOL, the Bundists got themselves gassed, objectively hilarious.
deflecting the blame for the Holocaust away from the Nazis onto its victims.
And they even at one point try to lead a campaign to defund the Bund's school system, which does not have any modern resonances at all.
But that's something also interesting because I guess the ideological war that happened between the Zionists and the Bund, if you will.
um they ended up really smearing or trying to the zionists i mean trying to smear their name they're calling them terrorists calling themselves hating jews
exactly they say that their schools are turning out enemies of zion and there's even an instance i found where zionists beat up a bunda city councilman in vilna with baseball bats in 1929
And then there was the Ben Gurion quote where he he's the he's the founder and the first prime minister of Israel, where he said that he told the Bundes, I think he was in an argument with someone and he said, we have weapons and we'll kill you like dogs.
The really the turn of the century before Ben-Gurion becomes Ben-Gurion, it's in Płansk, which is the Polish miserable little town that he's from, where he's having a public debate with a Buddhist in a synagogue.
And he loses the debate in part because he has an annoying high pitched voice that no one likes.
And instead of, you know, taking the L like a normal person, he starts screaming, we have weapons and we'll shoot you down like dogs.
And if ever there was something that prefigures everything that happens afterwards, it's this very young Ben-Gurion, who I think is still going by the name David Brown, screaming, we have weapons and we will shoot you down like dogs because he lost an argument and didn't like the feeling.
The whole thing about, you know, I guess the smear campaign, the name calling, the labels, I mean, there's a lot of parallels, which you can draw to today.
I mean, my social media is unusable right now because I have so many lunatics in my comments section screaming at me and making conspiracies about me or also laughing about the deaths of the Bundists in the Holocaust.
I have comments that over and over again, LOL, the Bundists got themselves gassed, objectively hilarious.
deflecting the blame for the Holocaust away from the Nazis onto its victims.
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