Oct 6, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min · 11 segments
Following the death of Jeffrey Archer at the age of 86, I wanted to share this previously unreleased conversation I recorded with him. Jeffrey discusses Margaret Thatcher, Boris Johnson, the…
Jeffrey ArcherGuestSunilHostI want to touch on the, uh, self-accountability, um, aspect there.
Do, do you think that's...
Is that a concern for you going forward in 2021? Now, m- my argument to this is, I, uh, of course, in the last, uh, 18 months, I mean, we've had this, um, dangerous virus that has impacted, uh, millions of people's lives.
There is the argument to say we have given state a lot of power i- in the last 18 months, which isn't unlike normal sort of conservative philosophy.
Do, do you think there's a, a bit of a concern now that as we're moving away, hopefully, and we- we're going back to a, a normal, uh, society, if you'd like, it, it...
Do you think that's a potential concern where people are now used to the sort of intervention from state and support from state, and they, we could go down a, a, almost, uh, the opposite to what sort of Margaret Thatcher would want in terms of that self-reliance? Or do you think it's just, it's just a phase that we've had in this period of time and we'll go back?
It would've been fascinating to see, and we will never know, uh, how different it might have been if Margaret Thatcher had been prime minister now and not when she was.
But the truth of the matter is, Sunil, we've just going through the Third World War.
Every country on Earth involved, so it's a real world war, and the world war has been against COVID-19, and some countries have done better than others, and everyone's been involved.
So when you say, and I, I, I can see where you're coming from, are, are, are the Conservative Party now not that the party of the safe money and safety and being careful? We couldn't be.
We were in a world war, and in a world war, you will face tremendous financial problems.
It's interesting to hear you talk about it.
We will come back to politics.
Um, I, I want to move to your writing.
I want to touch on the, uh, self-accountability, um, aspect there.
Do, do you think that's...
Is that a concern for you going forward in 2021? Now, m- my argument to this is, I, uh, of course, in the last, uh, 18 months, I mean, we've had this, um, dangerous virus that has impacted, uh, millions of people's lives.
There is the argument to say we have given state a lot of power i- in the last 18 months, which isn't unlike normal sort of conservative philosophy.
Do, do you think there's a, a bit of a concern now that as we're moving away, hopefully, and we- we're going back to a, a normal, uh, society, if you'd like, it, it...
Do you think that's a potential concern where people are now used to the sort of intervention from state and support from state, and they, we could go down a, a, almost, uh, the opposite to what sort of Margaret Thatcher would want in terms of that self-reliance? Or do you think it's just, it's just a phase that we've had in this period of time and we'll go back?
It would've been fascinating to see, and we will never know, uh, how different it might have been if Margaret Thatcher had been prime minister now and not when she was.
But the truth of the matter is, Sunil, we've just going through the Third World War.
Every country on Earth involved, so it's a real world war, and the world war has been against COVID-19, and some countries have done better than others, and everyone's been involved.
So when you say, and I, I, I can see where you're coming from, are, are, are the Conservative Party now not that the party of the safe money and safety and being careful? We couldn't be.
We were in a world war, and in a world war, you will face tremendous financial problems.
It's interesting to hear you talk about it.
We will come back to politics.
Um, I, I want to move to your writing.
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