Hilchos Esrogim and the Chashash of Murkav

The Gemara in Sukkah, on da'af, Lamed Heyyam al-Alev says, That a esrik, by definition, is a fruit that the tree, the branches of the tree and the fruit taste the same.

We know by HaKadosh Baruch Hu wanted that all trees should produce, should be eitz peri, that it should, eitz should taste like the fruit.

The trees did not listen, whatever that means, however we understand it.

And therefore the end result was that most trees, the branches taste like nothing, only the fruit tastes like fruit.

And the estrog is one exception.

So the commandment of the estrog has to be made by Pilate.

some sort of spice, that also the Mitzvah says the tree and the branch taste the same.

So the Gemara says, So we see that we need a fruit that is on the, tree the entire year.

And also we need, we also need that the tree and the fruit taste the same.

Agav, it's for this reason, once we got this far, that in Esrig you don't make a Shechiano on an Esrig.

Why? A little bit of a misquote that the world has that shahianu fruit means a fruit that you didn't eat in a year that the icky you saw it if you look in race cafe the side of shahianu is when you have fruits that go out of season and then come back in the first time you see it for example let's say a peach in the winter is gone comes back in the summer you walk into your local grocery and they're selling peaches it's exciting That is when you make a Shecheyanu.

Masha Hinken and Esrig, that always has fruits on the tree that can be taken off, Mishan and Lushan, the entire year, so it does not have a season, you don't make a Shecheyanu.

Masha has a long Tuva Gada today, where we can go to South America and we can buy peaches in the winter.

Do you ever make a Shecheyanu? I think the reason why the Urim gets confused is because everyone knows you need a new fruit the second night, Rosh Hashanah, and you go to the store and buy whatever fruit you never saw before and put it on your table, and people think, oh, I never ate it, I didn't eat it in a year, I make a Shechiyanu.

The truth over there is you make a Shechiyanu because if you have no fruit, you make a Shechiyanu anyway on Kiddush.

You put down whatever nice fruits you can get, it's Zikr like Gora, but to actually go and make a Shechiyanu on a fruit, that is a Sugih for Zikr, and it's not so posh.

Now, the question is like this.

What happens if I have a fruit that's Taka, Dar, Me'ilana, Mishana, Mushana.

It also tastes, the branches taste like the fruit itself.

Can I use that for an ester? So the Me'iri in the Sugya says that it's not Pshat in the Gemara, that the Gemara is telling me what's kosher on Sukkot and what's not.

He says, Avada, the Varda is only an ester and that's it.

They grabbed the board of Pasek.

But it's not that if I could find a new fruit that is on the tree the whole year and tastes the same, that I would say in any way that that fruit has a din that I could take it on Yom Tov.

The Ramban ala Torah also brings this Rosh Hashanah.

He says it's all Asmachtas.