Yowei ShawHostJay Caspian KangGuest
[beeping] Now I can reveal that my low investment icon is a guy named Jay Caspian Kang.

He's written for The New York Times, The New York Times Magazine, and he's now a staff writer at The New Yorker.


I got a lot out of his book, The Loneliest Americans, about second-generation Asian immigrant heart seller kids like me.

And I like listening to his podcast, Time to Say Goodbye, because I'm always interested to hear Jay's take on the news, and I learn about political controversies I didn't even know existed.

He covers really serious topics that he obviously cares about, but he does it with an I don't give a fuck attitude.

He does this not just in the safe confines of his own podcast, but in interviews and on stage in extremely elite, scary spaces where one is absolutely expected to give a fuck.

How does he do it? And why? As usual, I prepped for the interview to the last minute.

[beeping] Now I can reveal that my low investment icon is a guy named Jay Caspian Kang.

He's written for The New York Times, The New York Times Magazine, and he's now a staff writer at The New Yorker.


I got a lot out of his book, The Loneliest Americans, about second-generation Asian immigrant heart seller kids like me.

And I like listening to his podcast, Time to Say Goodbye, because I'm always interested to hear Jay's take on the news, and I learn about political controversies I didn't even know existed.

He covers really serious topics that he obviously cares about, but he does it with an I don't give a fuck attitude.

He does this not just in the safe confines of his own podcast, but in interviews and on stage in extremely elite, scary spaces where one is absolutely expected to give a fuck.

How does he do it? And why? As usual, I prepped for the interview to the last minute.
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