Path To The Main Stage Podcast
Oct 5, 2026 · 43 min · 12 segments
**Unlock the main stage with joy, customization, and authenticity!** Learn how to break into keynote speaking, deliver unforgettable talks, and build a thriving business as Li Hayes chats with…
Kevin SuraceGuest
Li HayesHost
Your audiences, do you prefer certain audiences? Is there any audience or situation where you say, "No, that's not going to be a fit"?

Uh, I, I mean, I love 5,000, but the truth is when you have so many people are gonna hear that and go, "5,000, it's a..." Look, you can see the first row maybe.

You can't see the rest of them anyway, so don't worry about it if it's 5,000 or 10,000.

Um, a- a- a- as we've talked about, I was on TV, and, um, when we're on TV, we had an audience of, uh, 100,000 or 200,000 at any time live.

And so after you've done that, it do- doesn't really matter, you know? It doesn't matter how big your audience is.

It's p- part of when I, when I teach a, a sales course that I, that I do, um, one of the things I talk about is selling attitude.

And one of the things, uh, the joy success cycle talks about in my book is, is attitude overall.

I know s- I've met so many speakers that are early in their career, right? And, "Well, you know, how do you get over nervousness? How do you get over this? How do you get over that? Uh, and this is really hard, and I'm really worried," and I, and they're thinking, and they're contemplating the words, and they...

Your audiences, do you prefer certain audiences? Is there any audience or situation where you say, "No, that's not going to be a fit"?

Uh, I, I mean, I love 5,000, but the truth is when you have so many people are gonna hear that and go, "5,000, it's a..." Look, you can see the first row maybe.

You can't see the rest of them anyway, so don't worry about it if it's 5,000 or 10,000.

Um, a- a- a- as we've talked about, I was on TV, and, um, when we're on TV, we had an audience of, uh, 100,000 or 200,000 at any time live.

And so after you've done that, it do- doesn't really matter, you know? It doesn't matter how big your audience is.

It's p- part of when I, when I teach a, a sales course that I, that I do, um, one of the things I talk about is selling attitude.

And one of the things, uh, the joy success cycle talks about in my book is, is attitude overall.

I know s- I've met so many speakers that are early in their career, right? And, "Well, you know, how do you get over nervousness? How do you get over this? How do you get over that? Uh, and this is really hard, and I'm really worried," and I, and they're thinking, and they're contemplating the words, and they...
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