Jul 7, 2026 · 54 min · 11 segments
In this episode of Path to Purpose, Pastor David Lindell and Pastor Brandon Lindell sit down with missionary and author Dr. Dick Brogden for a powerful conversation about finding joy when life is…
Brandon LindellHost
David LindellHost
I'm guessing that was rooted also in conviction and that conviction to go maybe even intentionally, uh, I don't know, I'm just curious for you, you're raising up, you're pouring into, you're leading a movement of missionaries and people are going onto the field.

How has that shaped the way you help them think about God providing for what they need? maybe the importance of that.

I'm just curious how that conviction shapes the way you would talk to people who are going into ministry or, or into any calling that God is moving them into who's thinking, well, I don't have the resource to do that.

I need to wait until I've got more funding and then I can independently fund my, my missions work or whatever.
I think most things start theologically, and I love your question because it addresses a fundamental misconception that we go to give or that we go to teach.
What if we go to receive? What if we go to learn? So rather than being this kind of colonial imperial, here I am, the great white, black, Hispanic hope, I am the answer to all of these benighted people's needs.
What if it's actually we benefit more by going than by staying? And what if it is in that nothing, in that smallness, Jesus becomes very big, very real, and very sufficient? So I think it really, really, that experience really helped us to say, you know, missions is not about you being the answer.
So if you come in lowly, if you come in as a learner, you're actually a much better missionary than if you come in as the answer.
And that takes some deconstruction because we all think, oh, those poor don't have anything.

I'm guessing that was rooted also in conviction and that conviction to go maybe even intentionally, uh, I don't know, I'm just curious for you, you're raising up, you're pouring into, you're leading a movement of missionaries and people are going onto the field.

How has that shaped the way you help them think about God providing for what they need? maybe the importance of that.

I'm just curious how that conviction shapes the way you would talk to people who are going into ministry or, or into any calling that God is moving them into who's thinking, well, I don't have the resource to do that.

I need to wait until I've got more funding and then I can independently fund my, my missions work or whatever.
I think most things start theologically, and I love your question because it addresses a fundamental misconception that we go to give or that we go to teach.
What if we go to receive? What if we go to learn? So rather than being this kind of colonial imperial, here I am, the great white, black, Hispanic hope, I am the answer to all of these benighted people's needs.
What if it's actually we benefit more by going than by staying? And what if it is in that nothing, in that smallness, Jesus becomes very big, very real, and very sufficient? So I think it really, really, that experience really helped us to say, you know, missions is not about you being the answer.
So if you come in lowly, if you come in as a learner, you're actually a much better missionary than if you come in as the answer.
And that takes some deconstruction because we all think, oh, those poor don't have anything.
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