Sep 9, 2026 · 53 min · 14 segments
Harrison Gordon returns to OurSpace to talk about the band's new sophomore album, Bliss, and everything that's changed since our first conversation two years ago. After the viral success surrounding…
Harrison GordonGuestMatt BattiseHost
You know, like, I went in making this record being like, "This is gonna be our fucking The Dream Is Over.
This is gonna be our," I don't know, you know, other records that are like that.
The album's not out yet, so we're talking from a lens of before the fans actually get it.
Does thinking that way also add a little bit of extra pressure onto you? Because, I mean, both of those, I'm thinking more so Pinkerton, I don't think that The Dream Is Over necessarily got the same response publicly that Pinkerton did, but I mean, Pinkerton was publicly, I guess, hated, reviewed poorly, and then looked back in retrospect and everyone said, "No, no, no, that's a fricking amazing record."
So do you kinda have those thoughts of, like, how it's going to be perceived before it comes out?
Uh, I think we are in a, in a, like, a, like, a post-Pinkerton in, like, like, era, where things are not gonna get, like, like, like, records don't get panned for the same reason they did back then, you know? And also, like, we're not a super, like, you know...
That, the issue that they had is they became a really mainstream successful band, and then they were trying to market this, like, niche, really sad emo rock to, like, mainstream Budweiser rocker crowd, uh-
'Cause it's like, there's, you know, Pinkerton is now seen as, like s- you know, a masterpiece by a lot of people, but it w- even, you know, most the people that, that hated it back then probably still hate it today.
Like, there's probably so many people that bought Pinkerton in 1996 and then turned on, "I hate," like, or, "I'm tired of Sex," and then threw the album in the garbage and-
... have not come back around on it, and ha- probably haven't thought about it since 1996.
But I think, I think being in sort of this, this alternative world, and, like, the death of monoculture has kinda aided in the, aided in this a lot, where it's like this album is already going out to people that are, that have the palate for this kind of stuff.
You know, like, I went in making this record being like, "This is gonna be our fucking The Dream Is Over.
This is gonna be our," I don't know, you know, other records that are like that.
The album's not out yet, so we're talking from a lens of before the fans actually get it.
Does thinking that way also add a little bit of extra pressure onto you? Because, I mean, both of those, I'm thinking more so Pinkerton, I don't think that The Dream Is Over necessarily got the same response publicly that Pinkerton did, but I mean, Pinkerton was publicly, I guess, hated, reviewed poorly, and then looked back in retrospect and everyone said, "No, no, no, that's a fricking amazing record."
So do you kinda have those thoughts of, like, how it's going to be perceived before it comes out?
Uh, I think we are in a, in a, like, a, like, a post-Pinkerton in, like, like, era, where things are not gonna get, like, like, like, records don't get panned for the same reason they did back then, you know? And also, like, we're not a super, like, you know...
That, the issue that they had is they became a really mainstream successful band, and then they were trying to market this, like, niche, really sad emo rock to, like, mainstream Budweiser rocker crowd, uh-
'Cause it's like, there's, you know, Pinkerton is now seen as, like s- you know, a masterpiece by a lot of people, but it w- even, you know, most the people that, that hated it back then probably still hate it today.
Like, there's probably so many people that bought Pinkerton in 1996 and then turned on, "I hate," like, or, "I'm tired of Sex," and then threw the album in the garbage and-
... have not come back around on it, and ha- probably haven't thought about it since 1996.
But I think, I think being in sort of this, this alternative world, and, like, the death of monoculture has kinda aided in the, aided in this a lot, where it's like this album is already going out to people that are, that have the palate for this kind of stuff.
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