On Common Ground: An American Inheritance
Aug 17, 2026 · 29 min · 9 segments
Who really owns America's public lands, and who is trying to take them away? Episode three, "The Plunderers," follows the money. It opens with four hunters from Missouri who crossed from one corner…
Bill HeddenHost
John LeshyHostAnd so then, this is what gets to the crux of it, is that the private landowner says, "I'm gonna sue you civilly." And they're like, "What?" And they...
He sued them for like, God, it was, it was astronomical.
In the millions of dollars.
So they sued them for eight million dollars, also the devaluation of his ranch because now everybody could access that public land that was de facto private, and so you're devaluing his ranch.
So here's this billionaire from North Carolina, great villain, right? Like, he's not a local rancher.
The local ranchers wanted nothing to do with Mr. Eshelman because, like, he was, he was doing all the wrong things.

It ends with a question: How many other billionaires are doing the same thing, not with lawsuits, but with legislation, with campaign contributions, with a political system that converts private wealth into public policy?
Where we are at this very moment, you have billionaires with a big B trying to, to either get these public lands for themselves for their own private, like, respites or hunting grounds or fishing spots, or they're trying to exploit them to make more money, all at the expense of we, the people.
And so that money is not only being influenced, I would say, on who has access to these elected leaders and who is making these decisions, uh, but ultimately, that money is going to push us out, the little guys, from this conversation.
And so then, this is what gets to the crux of it, is that the private landowner says, "I'm gonna sue you civilly." And they're like, "What?" And they...
He sued them for like, God, it was, it was astronomical.
In the millions of dollars.
So they sued them for eight million dollars, also the devaluation of his ranch because now everybody could access that public land that was de facto private, and so you're devaluing his ranch.
So here's this billionaire from North Carolina, great villain, right? Like, he's not a local rancher.
The local ranchers wanted nothing to do with Mr. Eshelman because, like, he was, he was doing all the wrong things.

It ends with a question: How many other billionaires are doing the same thing, not with lawsuits, but with legislation, with campaign contributions, with a political system that converts private wealth into public policy?
Where we are at this very moment, you have billionaires with a big B trying to, to either get these public lands for themselves for their own private, like, respites or hunting grounds or fishing spots, or they're trying to exploit them to make more money, all at the expense of we, the people.
And so that money is not only being influenced, I would say, on who has access to these elected leaders and who is making these decisions, uh, but ultimately, that money is going to push us out, the little guys, from this conversation.
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