Never Have I Ever with Claire Byrne
Jul 29, 2026 · 57 min · 12 segments
For most of us, war is something we witness from a distance. For Sally Hayden, it's become her life's work. This week, Claire Byrne meets the award-winning Irish journalist whose reporting has taken…
Sally HaydenGuestYou're just back from, um, Lebanon, and you've lived there for the last couple of years.

I mean, it's almost impossible to kind of describe and quantify, like, one million people displaced in a, a very small country.

A kind of huge swathe of territory at this, in the south is being occupied still by the Israeli military.
And what is an ordinary day in Beirut right now? Like, does, does ordinary life continue?

So I moved there in January 2024, and there was lower level conflict at the border, but it hadn't expanded, and we didn't necessarily expect it to expand.

I moved there 'cause I was on a break while writing my book, and I had friends there, and, you know, one had a spare room and just said, "Why don't you come and hang out," basically.

So I was living there already for nine months when the war escalated and, and came to Beirut as well, and that was the point when I got accredited and decided I should start reporting.

There is war generally ongoing, even including that period where there was a 15-month ceasefire.


And I think that the main thing to understand about living through a war maybe is uncertainty.
You're just back from, um, Lebanon, and you've lived there for the last couple of years.

I mean, it's almost impossible to kind of describe and quantify, like, one million people displaced in a, a very small country.

A kind of huge swathe of territory at this, in the south is being occupied still by the Israeli military.
And what is an ordinary day in Beirut right now? Like, does, does ordinary life continue?

So I moved there in January 2024, and there was lower level conflict at the border, but it hadn't expanded, and we didn't necessarily expect it to expand.

I moved there 'cause I was on a break while writing my book, and I had friends there, and, you know, one had a spare room and just said, "Why don't you come and hang out," basically.

So I was living there already for nine months when the war escalated and, and came to Beirut as well, and that was the point when I got accredited and decided I should start reporting.

There is war generally ongoing, even including that period where there was a 15-month ceasefire.


And I think that the main thing to understand about living through a war maybe is uncertainty.
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