Becky Anderson

And we're both

sharing admiration for Becky Anderson.

Yes.

Live in Abu Dhabi, as she would say.

And this is why I asked the question, because...

And I think your example of Barbara Walters is excellent.

Now, as a news junkie, I didn't see Barbara Walters as a journalist, right? I don't see her in the same light as I see Becky Anderson or Christiane Amanpour, right? I see Barbara, Oprah in the same bucket where, yes, they can hold very serious conversations with prominent, serious people because they're sharp women.

but I don't see them as journalists because of the environment and the work that they do.