Brené Brown on Leadership During Times of Uncertainty

And this week we have one of my favorite thought leaders, Kristen, it's Brene Brown.

Yes.

We had a great conversation with her at our Most Powerful Women's Summit on stage in Washington DC, um, and it was really cool 'cause I'd never gotten a chance to meet her before, and you, you have, right, Diane?

I have.

I mean, she's, she's a transformational leader, really.

And her, her book that really put her on the map was called The Gifts of Imperfection.

It was all about being vulnerable, the power of empathy, which is something we maybe take for granted now, but I would say she was a real pioneer in putting that as a core leadership quality.

I think so.

And speaking of core, the new book-

Yeah.

...is about core.

It's called Strong Ground.

Uh, she based it on she had a pickleball injury, needed to get a trainer to work on her physical core, used that as a metaphor kind of for CEOs and organizations in building up their own core in this time of fear, uncertainty, and a hard time to tell the truth, as she's recently said.

Well, and a hard time to be vulnerable.

I mean, she really has not been out there speaking a lot in the past year.

She does talk about why it's so hard to be human, you know, in this environment, and part of it's the politics, AI, and multiplicity of other factors.

Mm-hmm.

I find it fascinating, 'cause she really reminds us what does good leadership look like and what does it look like right now.

She does.

I think it was a great conversation, and let's hear it.