Oct 3, 2026 · 1 hr 12 min · 35 segments
The best Red Sox reactions from The Greg Hill Show, Jones & Keefe, and Rich & Ken with Ted Johnson. Sonny Gray and Willson Contreras speak out against decision-makers. Will the front office change its…
Rich KeefeHost
Adam JonesHostRich ShertlinHost
Chris CurtisPanelist
Jermaine WigginsPanelist
Ken LairdHostGreg HillHost
Yeah, I, it's, this is why analytics fail in the playoffs every single time.

I alluded to it yesterday when it pertained to Moneyball ending in the ALCS.

You have a three-game series, you have a pitcher that has been superb third time through the lineup, you are in the definition of a must-win game, and you pull Sonny Gray a day after pulling Peyton Holly after 83 pitches, and we can all agree the offense sucked.
Yep.

But you, if your offense sucks, I don't know, call me crazy, that means you really have to focus on how good your pitching is to have a shot to win the game, and you just...

It's fine for 162 games with a massive sample size, but in a three-game series, this analytics approach does not work.
So d- uh, is your guess that a- analytically they went into that with the expectation that Sonny Gray was only gonna give you 70 pitches?
No way.

The analytics is that they say that the third time through the order overall batters have a much bigger advantage than the pitcher.
Hasn't he pitched this season where he's gone over 70 pitches?
Yes.
So, I mean, I just think that, you know, I would say that, I, I don't know.
I, and I get what Curtis is saying, Bres bought is the analytics, but if you're-

you're-I, I guess if you're Chad Tracy in this situation, it's gotta be up to you to be like, "No, he's still good to go.
But it was interesting, and I'm sure we'll hear from him, but Wilson Contreras after the game talking about, like, this is baseball.
Like, it's not just about having talent.
You have computers, you have data.
So is it a baseball issue as a whole, or is it just Craig Breslow? Like, eh, to me, listening to Wilson Contreras after-

Yeah, I, it's, this is why analytics fail in the playoffs every single time.

I alluded to it yesterday when it pertained to Moneyball ending in the ALCS.

You have a three-game series, you have a pitcher that has been superb third time through the lineup, you are in the definition of a must-win game, and you pull Sonny Gray a day after pulling Peyton Holly after 83 pitches, and we can all agree the offense sucked.
Yep.

But you, if your offense sucks, I don't know, call me crazy, that means you really have to focus on how good your pitching is to have a shot to win the game, and you just...

It's fine for 162 games with a massive sample size, but in a three-game series, this analytics approach does not work.
So d- uh, is your guess that a- analytically they went into that with the expectation that Sonny Gray was only gonna give you 70 pitches?
No way.

The analytics is that they say that the third time through the order overall batters have a much bigger advantage than the pitcher.
Hasn't he pitched this season where he's gone over 70 pitches?
Yes.
So, I mean, I just think that, you know, I would say that, I, I don't know.
I, and I get what Curtis is saying, Bres bought is the analytics, but if you're-

you're-I, I guess if you're Chad Tracy in this situation, it's gotta be up to you to be like, "No, he's still good to go.
But it was interesting, and I'm sure we'll hear from him, but Wilson Contreras after the game talking about, like, this is baseball.
Like, it's not just about having talent.
You have computers, you have data.
So is it a baseball issue as a whole, or is it just Craig Breslow? Like, eh, to me, listening to Wilson Contreras after-
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