Chad Pinder

Right.

Um, [laughs] Well, once we get rid of Chad Pinder, we'll be all set.

[laughs] But yeah, you're right.

No, p- I mean, so it's really...

But I, you know, thinking about our player development folks, you know, the the the preparation, not only the development, but the preparation for our players that have gone through the minor leagues, and certainly this year with the amount of debuts that we've had, really speaks to the group in the minor league system.

I think Chad Pinder, what he's done this year in getting guys not only ready, but also ready having them perform the way that they have at such a high level and consistently.

And it's just the depth of players that have really stepped up and provided help at the major league level.

So I definitely wanna highlight that group, but it goes beyond.

And Flea, you actually threw one out that I really like, um, but I'll, I'll get to that in, in a minute here.

I, I don't really know what to do with Zach Gelof because if you're looking through, like, utility guys, it's like, okay, he is a rich man's Chad Pinder or a poor man's Tony Phillips.

Like, that's kinda how I, I, how I was thinking about him.

Like ...

He didn't hit for the power that Gelof had with the A's, but in terms of, like, he did after that.

Like, when he was with the Tigers, he had, he had a couple 20 home run seasons.

But he's better than Zach Gelof, right? Zach Gelof is a poor man's Tony Phillips or a rich man's Chad Pinder, as in tools.

Like, there's real ...

And I said this last night.

I don't think that if you replace Kotze with a Crosby or a Chad Pinder or whoever you want to be, the record changes.

Now, Going forward, and as far as culture, and getting away from the last five years, I could see a change happening.

Bob, I think with no injuries, the A's would be 5-15 under right now.