Leading Through Risk with LaToya Lacey

It's fascinating.

Two things from that.

One, anyone that can use the word peon in context, I loved.

But the other bit, it sounds like in another world, you could have ended up being like a private detective or something like that.

It feels like you've got that kind of like gene of like, I'm going to chase this down.

I'm going to chase it down.

That came from

me being the bratty little sister.

I was trying to get my brothers in

trouble.

I recognize that thrill, though, because I actually found a fraud.

Sorry, not running away from my brothers, even though I did.

I mean, the fraud side of business is fascinating.

And that's a whole other story.

But I just wanted to.

So I remember you commenting on.

your role when we first met in Poland.

And he said something along the lines, and correct me if I've got this wrong.

He said something along the lines of, my job would be made a lot easier if everybody told me the risks in the business all the time.

So how do you open up the sort of lines of communication to be able to find risk rather than you stumbling across a fraud? Surely, you know, we need to open up lines of communication so that people can report risk.

And are people comfortable doing that?

Yes, I think it depends on the culture of the company.

So I've been fortunate enough to work for companies where they're very clear on we have to do business the right way.

And here are the lines to report something if something is not right.

And I've seen when you have that type of a culture that people typically feel comfortable to speak up.