Aug 26, 2026 · 47 min · 13 segments
"You have to be willing to fail." That's Mike DeWine, the man who's held just about every role in Ohio politics, including US Senator, a job he ran for four times. First, he lost. Then he won. Then…
Mike DeWineGuest
Connor Diemand-YaumanHostBefore we started recording, I was talking with your staff and they mentioned that last week you had this big important lunch at the governor's mansion that you rescheduled.
And you rescheduled it because you wanted to go to the funeral of a 97-year-old woman who supported your, I think it was your run for state prosecutor.
What struck me about this is that apparently this is not a one-off for you.
This is a really common thing that you do, rescheduling seemingly important business so that you can attend these moments for people, funerals and weddings.
And when I heard that, it felt less like politics and more like pastoral work or ministerial work.

When a governor goes someplace, it signifies that That event is an important event.

She had, you know, volunteered going back 50 years ago when I first ran for county prosecuting attorney.

And the fact is that, you know, the meeting we were going to have in that room could be rescheduled.

You have one opportunity to go do that and to pay your respects and to tell the family what she meant to you.
Have you always had that clarity on the importance of the things? Well, I think

when you get older, you get more clarity about what's important because you can't do everything.

And so then you try to figure out, well, what is important? And again, time is the most precious thing we have.
Before we started recording, I was talking with your staff and they mentioned that last week you had this big important lunch at the governor's mansion that you rescheduled.
And you rescheduled it because you wanted to go to the funeral of a 97-year-old woman who supported your, I think it was your run for state prosecutor.
What struck me about this is that apparently this is not a one-off for you.
This is a really common thing that you do, rescheduling seemingly important business so that you can attend these moments for people, funerals and weddings.
And when I heard that, it felt less like politics and more like pastoral work or ministerial work.

When a governor goes someplace, it signifies that That event is an important event.

She had, you know, volunteered going back 50 years ago when I first ran for county prosecuting attorney.

And the fact is that, you know, the meeting we were going to have in that room could be rescheduled.

You have one opportunity to go do that and to pay your respects and to tell the family what she meant to you.
Have you always had that clarity on the importance of the things? Well, I think

when you get older, you get more clarity about what's important because you can't do everything.

And so then you try to figure out, well, what is important? And again, time is the most precious thing we have.
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