Indian Music Journeys with Ranjana
Sep 20, 2026 · 47 min · 7 segments
Kirpalji is one of my most favourite musicians - he brings so much sweetness, depth and deep devotion to his playing. This two part interview is full of adventure and humility with an insight into the…
Kirpal Singh PanesarGuest
Ranjana GhatakHost
okay and in terms of for people that are completely new to understanding the music that you play and the kirtan side of things within the nantari community so is it that the to correct me if I'm wrong, just to clarify.

So all of the Gurbani that is from the Sri Guru Granth Sahib composed in ragas.

We also have Gurbani from the writing of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, which is Dasam Granth.

And we have other spiritual scripts as well, such as Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vars.


And if we then have lyrics and tie those lyrics to that Gath, then that Gath becomes a Bandish.

And if those lyrics happen to be Gurbani, whether it's from Guru Granth Sahib, whether it's from Dasam Guru Granth Sahib, whether it's from Bhai Gurudas Ji's Vara, then we call it Kirtan.

Or it could be any spiritual text, even Gita, even Tulsi Das Ramayana.

We have Gurmat Kirtan, which is obviously the Sikh tradition, reading it from the Guru Granth Sahib.

The framework of the Kirtan is exactly, you know, very similar to Hindustani classical music.

it's a very very rich tradition yeah and which languages are sung it's it's very diverse so we have bridge basha we have um we have even persian we have um Urdu, we have, there's so many different languages.

okay and in terms of for people that are completely new to understanding the music that you play and the kirtan side of things within the nantari community so is it that the to correct me if I'm wrong, just to clarify.

So all of the Gurbani that is from the Sri Guru Granth Sahib composed in ragas.

We also have Gurbani from the writing of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, which is Dasam Granth.

And we have other spiritual scripts as well, such as Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vars.


And if we then have lyrics and tie those lyrics to that Gath, then that Gath becomes a Bandish.

And if those lyrics happen to be Gurbani, whether it's from Guru Granth Sahib, whether it's from Dasam Guru Granth Sahib, whether it's from Bhai Gurudas Ji's Vara, then we call it Kirtan.

Or it could be any spiritual text, even Gita, even Tulsi Das Ramayana.

We have Gurmat Kirtan, which is obviously the Sikh tradition, reading it from the Guru Granth Sahib.

The framework of the Kirtan is exactly, you know, very similar to Hindustani classical music.

it's a very very rich tradition yeah and which languages are sung it's it's very diverse so we have bridge basha we have um we have even persian we have um Urdu, we have, there's so many different languages.
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