
Like songwriting-wise prob- probably, but probably more easy to identify as, I guess, what might be more considered as like career-wise.

So, um, then that was very much based on like the amount of support there was in that city at that time.

And what was it like creating your first record? Like, do you remember those early, that, that first kind of...

Like, 'cause you were also a producer at the same time, like you've produced much of your solo career spanning 13, is it 13 solo albums that you have out, Rae? Like, it's such a great catalog that you have and it's very diverse.

What was that first kind of like record creation process like for you as like coming into finding your voice kind of the way that you [laughs] wanted to sing and play and can you kind of open that door a little bit up for us of that, that, that first kind of kick at the can, as we say?

Yeah, I mean, my first kick at the can was an EP that probably people don't hear now, [laughs] which is what I was talking about, which is fine, but I had only recorded on cassettes, right? So I s- had a four-track cassette player.

So yeah, I think like, but I had the experience I think a lot of people had the first time they went into the studio, which is that it is a completely different thing than playing live.

And so, you know, playing in time and the clicker, or how you're gonna play with musicians maybe you don't usually play shows with and things like that.

By the time I did my first like full-length record that came out in 2003, I was like...

Um, and so, and I don't think we tried to do anything to click, so that was like, you know, it, it was a move to something that I could see that that actually made it a lot easier to have that like kind of rapport, so yeah.

And did you kinda have an idea, like when you went into the studio that first time, you had a, like, you know, handful of songs.

Like songwriting-wise prob- probably, but probably more easy to identify as, I guess, what might be more considered as like career-wise.

So, um, then that was very much based on like the amount of support there was in that city at that time.

And what was it like creating your first record? Like, do you remember those early, that, that first kind of...

Like, 'cause you were also a producer at the same time, like you've produced much of your solo career spanning 13, is it 13 solo albums that you have out, Rae? Like, it's such a great catalog that you have and it's very diverse.

What was that first kind of like record creation process like for you as like coming into finding your voice kind of the way that you [laughs] wanted to sing and play and can you kind of open that door a little bit up for us of that, that, that first kind of kick at the can, as we say?

Yeah, I mean, my first kick at the can was an EP that probably people don't hear now, [laughs] which is what I was talking about, which is fine, but I had only recorded on cassettes, right? So I s- had a four-track cassette player.

So yeah, I think like, but I had the experience I think a lot of people had the first time they went into the studio, which is that it is a completely different thing than playing live.

And so, you know, playing in time and the clicker, or how you're gonna play with musicians maybe you don't usually play shows with and things like that.

By the time I did my first like full-length record that came out in 2003, I was like...

Um, and so, and I don't think we tried to do anything to click, so that was like, you know, it, it was a move to something that I could see that that actually made it a lot easier to have that like kind of rapport, so yeah.

And did you kinda have an idea, like when you went into the studio that first time, you had a, like, you know, handful of songs.
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