Jun 30, 2026 · 33 min · 13 segments
What motivates some of today’s successful leaders? What person or event helped snap their futures into focus, creating a roadmap they followed with grit and resilience, determined to make it to the…
Karen FinermanHost
Vivian TuGuest
Thasunda Brown DuckettGuest
Kecia SteelmanGuest
Debby SooGuestKendra ScottGuest
And I remember going to the mall with one of my best friends and getting a pair of ripped jeans.

My parents were very stressed about job security, very stressed about how are they going to be able to afford to help me go to college in four years.

But as a young person, all I could think to say was, well, my best friend, she also got a pair.

And this girl had been to my home a number of times, and I'd gone over to hers, and our parents knew each other.

And my mom looked me in the eye, and she said, well, her family, they're millionaires.

It felt like someone had stabbed and twisted the knife because up until then, I felt like we were all the same until I realized we weren't.

And I remember going to the mall with one of my best friends and getting a pair of ripped jeans.

My parents were very stressed about job security, very stressed about how are they going to be able to afford to help me go to college in four years.

But as a young person, all I could think to say was, well, my best friend, she also got a pair.

And this girl had been to my home a number of times, and I'd gone over to hers, and our parents knew each other.

And my mom looked me in the eye, and she said, well, her family, they're millionaires.

It felt like someone had stabbed and twisted the knife because up until then, I felt like we were all the same until I realized we weren't.
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