Sep 14, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min · 21 segments
It’s a tough time to be a federal Tory. The polls are demoralizing. Some MPs are quitting and some are going rogue. And the worse things get for Canada, the more voters seem to support the Liberals…
Ginny RothGuest
Ian BrodieGuestJust to, to go back to the, uh, the most recent Leger numbers a-and look at some regionals.
Uh, Atlantic Canada, the, uh, liberals have a 22-point lead over the conservatives.
The conservatives dominate across the prairies, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, not a big surprise.
The area where they do well, and this speaks to what you were talking about, Jenny, and, uh, and I'm not sure how they use this to, to turn things around, the other issues.
And the affordability crisis hitting young people, they're not leading with voters under 55, but with voters 35 to 54, they're close.
That is the closest demographic gap between the liberals and conservatives in this poll, similar numbers in, in other polling firms.
H-How do you get people talking about affordability, about crime, about immigration, which despite the fact that it has come down, is still a, a major problem for this country in terms of bringing in more people than we can ab- or bringing in people faster than we can absorb them? How do you twist and start getting people to talk about those issues again that they were, um, very much focused on prior to Donald Trump?

Ultimately, if the conservatives are gonna have a winning coalition, it needs to include some people over 55.

But doesn't need to, it doesn't need to include everyone over 55, right? Um, it needs, but it needs to include many, especially men.

Um, I, I don't see a path where a conservative is not winning, um, uh, men o- men over 55.

So, um, so the question is, how do you build back up to that? Uh, I think that if af-affordability is still your major issue, you don't own any assets, um, uh, and you don't watch a lot of mainstream media, you're probably still, uh, in the category that's with Pierre Poilievre, unless you're pretty far left-wing, in which case you're probably with the NDP.

That's a good core, but that's not enough, right? Like, that gets him to sort of where he is today.

Um, I actually sit in the cohort that I recently I've taken to de-describing it as, um, when you get paid, even if you get paid a lot, you look at, uh, everything that's flowing through, and you feel like it's all going to the government, the bank, or the grocery store.
Just to, to go back to the, uh, the most recent Leger numbers a-and look at some regionals.
Uh, Atlantic Canada, the, uh, liberals have a 22-point lead over the conservatives.
The conservatives dominate across the prairies, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, not a big surprise.
The area where they do well, and this speaks to what you were talking about, Jenny, and, uh, and I'm not sure how they use this to, to turn things around, the other issues.
And the affordability crisis hitting young people, they're not leading with voters under 55, but with voters 35 to 54, they're close.
That is the closest demographic gap between the liberals and conservatives in this poll, similar numbers in, in other polling firms.
H-How do you get people talking about affordability, about crime, about immigration, which despite the fact that it has come down, is still a, a major problem for this country in terms of bringing in more people than we can ab- or bringing in people faster than we can absorb them? How do you twist and start getting people to talk about those issues again that they were, um, very much focused on prior to Donald Trump?

Ultimately, if the conservatives are gonna have a winning coalition, it needs to include some people over 55.

But doesn't need to, it doesn't need to include everyone over 55, right? Um, it needs, but it needs to include many, especially men.

Um, I, I don't see a path where a conservative is not winning, um, uh, men o- men over 55.

So, um, so the question is, how do you build back up to that? Uh, I think that if af-affordability is still your major issue, you don't own any assets, um, uh, and you don't watch a lot of mainstream media, you're probably still, uh, in the category that's with Pierre Poilievre, unless you're pretty far left-wing, in which case you're probably with the NDP.

That's a good core, but that's not enough, right? Like, that gets him to sort of where he is today.

Um, I actually sit in the cohort that I recently I've taken to de-describing it as, um, when you get paid, even if you get paid a lot, you look at, uh, everything that's flowing through, and you feel like it's all going to the government, the bank, or the grocery store.
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