Oct 10, 2026 · 59 min · 17 segments
Are these midterms really about policy anymore, or about whether America stays a constitutional republic at all? Mark Meckler, co-founder and president of Convention of States Action and co-founder…
David WhitedHost
Stacy WhitedHostThis is not me being mean or exaggerating.
He's an actual heretic.
[laughs]
All he asks is that we follow him.
[laughs] I got no words.
It's like, hey, man, that's true, like, maybe if you cut off the entire last book of the Bible.
[laughs]
Like, the whole last book of the Bible is the lamb is seated on the throne with more people than anybody can count bowing down and worshiping him, throwing crowns before him, and then anybody who won't do that, he's throwing them into the lake of fire.
This is not me being mean or exaggerating.
He's an actual heretic, like a biblically defined false teacher and heretic.
What this guy does that I've never seen a politician do before that makes me have a little bit more of an edge, politicians since the beginning of time have been twisting scripture or using scripture to try to convince people to do what they want.
This is the first guy I've ever seen who's really his whole platform is using the Bible to convince Christians to support godless things.

Josh has done a great job on his podcast of highlighting these things 'cause, one, he's a Texan, and he's like, "Hey, this is an important election."

And when you see scripture being used to manipulate people, um, it's very interesting in this one because again, like I said, we could show you 12 clips we've played on this show in the past, James Talarico's pastor-

... spiritual advisor saying that J- you know, we don't believe that Jesus actually existed.
This is not me being mean or exaggerating.
He's an actual heretic.
[laughs]
All he asks is that we follow him.
[laughs] I got no words.
It's like, hey, man, that's true, like, maybe if you cut off the entire last book of the Bible.
[laughs]
Like, the whole last book of the Bible is the lamb is seated on the throne with more people than anybody can count bowing down and worshiping him, throwing crowns before him, and then anybody who won't do that, he's throwing them into the lake of fire.
This is not me being mean or exaggerating.
He's an actual heretic, like a biblically defined false teacher and heretic.
What this guy does that I've never seen a politician do before that makes me have a little bit more of an edge, politicians since the beginning of time have been twisting scripture or using scripture to try to convince people to do what they want.
This is the first guy I've ever seen who's really his whole platform is using the Bible to convince Christians to support godless things.

Josh has done a great job on his podcast of highlighting these things 'cause, one, he's a Texan, and he's like, "Hey, this is an important election."

And when you see scripture being used to manipulate people, um, it's very interesting in this one because again, like I said, we could show you 12 clips we've played on this show in the past, James Talarico's pastor-

... spiritual advisor saying that J- you know, we don't believe that Jesus actually existed.
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