Aug 1, 2026 · 1 hr 5 min · 11 segments
Thanks again to Flemming Blicher for this discussion of my book, *Wall Street, the Nazis, and the Crimes of the Deep State*. In this penultimate part, we discussed Chapter 7, titled “Where It Leads.”…
Well, because in my opinion, the warning signs from history are flashing red.
So when you see the continuities between 1930s Nazi Germany and what's been happening across the West since 2020, and when you understand the ways in which these Nazi elements persisted in the West beyond 1945, and when you get the ruling class project to build a totalitarian world state, there are many reasons for alarm here.
And so what I'm trying to do into this, in this chapter is to demonstrate that we must not be lulled into a false sense of security.
And when you look back at Nazi Germany, what you see is that it takes many years, in fact, to build a totalitarian state, and that would be true at the national level or indeed at the transnational level as we're witnessing today.
In Nazi Germany, there were, there were years of incremental restrictions on personal freedom, the suspension of legal and civil rights, and intense propaganda, and I think we're seeing something similar today.
So if you go back to Nazi Germany, and it's worth remembering that some of the worst discriminatory legislation against the Jews, for instance, didn't actually appear until 1938, five years into the Third Reich.
It took six and a half years after the Nazis came to power for World War II to break out.
The worst atrocities in that time, including the Holocaust and the war of annihilation in the East, didn't begin until eight years into the Nazi era.
And as C.J. Hopkins has, has written, uh, I'll quote him here, "It might take us 10 or 12 years to get there, but totalitarianism has an inevitable historical trajectory if those behind it are not defeated." And I think that's the key point here.
I think the trajectory is firmly in place, and it doesn't just happen overnight.
The worst horrors of Nazi Germany didn't just suddenly all take place in 1933.
In 1954, uh, he recounted that the descent of the Holocaust took place in hundreds of small, sometimes imperceptible steps, each rendering the next less shocking.
And I quote him, "Unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing.
One day it is over his head." So in other words, those in Nazi Germany just, they didn't see the bigger picture of, of, of what was going on, and, you know, how could they have in, in some sense? There's nothing like this had, had ever happened before.
The difference that we have today is that adequate knowledge of the Nazi past allows us to see exactly what the whole thing is in principle.
And in my opinion, we are looking at deliberately orchestrated totalitarianism to preserve the rule of the transnational ruling class, and we know where this series of small steps ultimately leads because of the history of Nazi Germany.
So I think that we are now living in an interregnum, much like the Germans in the 1930s who still imagined that they were living in a civilized society, that all was well.
They had no idea what was coming, and I fear that the same might be true today.
But I do think that if we draw the proper lessons of the Nazi past, then we can infer what is coming, um, at least if this global technocratic coup isn't put down, and that's exactly what I try to do in chapter seven.
Well, because in my opinion, the warning signs from history are flashing red.
So when you see the continuities between 1930s Nazi Germany and what's been happening across the West since 2020, and when you understand the ways in which these Nazi elements persisted in the West beyond 1945, and when you get the ruling class project to build a totalitarian world state, there are many reasons for alarm here.
And so what I'm trying to do into this, in this chapter is to demonstrate that we must not be lulled into a false sense of security.
And when you look back at Nazi Germany, what you see is that it takes many years, in fact, to build a totalitarian state, and that would be true at the national level or indeed at the transnational level as we're witnessing today.
In Nazi Germany, there were, there were years of incremental restrictions on personal freedom, the suspension of legal and civil rights, and intense propaganda, and I think we're seeing something similar today.
So if you go back to Nazi Germany, and it's worth remembering that some of the worst discriminatory legislation against the Jews, for instance, didn't actually appear until 1938, five years into the Third Reich.
It took six and a half years after the Nazis came to power for World War II to break out.
The worst atrocities in that time, including the Holocaust and the war of annihilation in the East, didn't begin until eight years into the Nazi era.
And as C.J. Hopkins has, has written, uh, I'll quote him here, "It might take us 10 or 12 years to get there, but totalitarianism has an inevitable historical trajectory if those behind it are not defeated." And I think that's the key point here.
I think the trajectory is firmly in place, and it doesn't just happen overnight.
The worst horrors of Nazi Germany didn't just suddenly all take place in 1933.
In 1954, uh, he recounted that the descent of the Holocaust took place in hundreds of small, sometimes imperceptible steps, each rendering the next less shocking.
And I quote him, "Unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing.
One day it is over his head." So in other words, those in Nazi Germany just, they didn't see the bigger picture of, of, of what was going on, and, you know, how could they have in, in some sense? There's nothing like this had, had ever happened before.
The difference that we have today is that adequate knowledge of the Nazi past allows us to see exactly what the whole thing is in principle.
And in my opinion, we are looking at deliberately orchestrated totalitarianism to preserve the rule of the transnational ruling class, and we know where this series of small steps ultimately leads because of the history of Nazi Germany.
So I think that we are now living in an interregnum, much like the Germans in the 1930s who still imagined that they were living in a civilized society, that all was well.
They had no idea what was coming, and I fear that the same might be true today.
But I do think that if we draw the proper lessons of the Nazi past, then we can infer what is coming, um, at least if this global technocratic coup isn't put down, and that's exactly what I try to do in chapter seven.
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