Jun 30, 2026 · 2 hr 43 min · 13 segments
**Buck Pierson spent 16 years as a US Marine and is the co-CEO of Staccato 2011.** **Show Sponsors:** **- Sign up for a $1 per month trial of Shopify at https://www.shopify.com/dalton** **- Try…
Buck PiersonGuest
Dalton FischerHost
Um, so yeah, and then just to, to wrap up on, on kind of Warrior's Heart, like I know we, we were talking in the car, you know, you've had, you had a few friends die in combat, you had more friends die to suicide, and now is, is the era of people dying from like service-related cancers and that sort of thing.
But, um, I guess, what, what do you want to say about like s- about Warrior's Heart and that program and kinda, like what went on there that, that helped you move forward?
Well, one, I'll say because they only service veterans, first responders, law enforcement, so like those are all culturally job professions where it's considered being a bitch to ask for help.
Coming to the realization that you need help, like don't be scared to ask for help.
And if you go there, or some institution like that where it's servicing people who've had the same work background as you, you don't have to worry about like ...
My fear was I was gonna end up in some rehab center where it's like a bunch of like trust fund babies or rich dudes' wives that got a botched boob job and they're now they're addicted to pills, and like I didn't want anything to do with any of that.
It was like I at least want to be surrounded by people that I know served so we all have something in common, 'cause I'm not a very open person, and I was very closed off at this point in my life, and I knew that I had a lot I needed to get out or it was gonna consume me.
Uh, I will say Warrior's Heart does a very good job of putting you in an environment where as a f- service member, whether law enforcement, first responder, you feel comfortable and you feel surrounded by people who care, who've also been there and done that.
Uh, and I think that helps dramatically, um, 'cause it's not easy to open up about inner demons at all, uh, or to even admit you have a problem.
Yeah, I mean, and that's, uh, again, keep bringing up Josh, uh, obviously 'cause he's a mutual friend.
He's like, you know, it, he's like, "I didn't wanna talk to some fucking old lady therapist who has no idea what it's like to..." He, he's like, he's like, "I don't even talk to, like w- I barely talk to my buddies about this shit."
Like, "What makes you think I'm gonna wanna talk to you about it?" So I would imagine that, you know, having like-minded people that actually did the job and walked the walk, it makes it, um, like you said, I guess more comfortable and, you know, okay.
It makes it more okay for you to, to talk about it, 'cause they understand it.
And, and so it, it creates an environment where I feel like they have a higher success rate because of that.
Whereas if you took everyone who has gone to Warrior's Heart in the last, I don't know, 10 years, and you just sent them to some civilian rehab place, I'd be willing to bet there'd be a dramatically higher failure percentage of guys going through those programs.
Um, so yeah, and then just to, to wrap up on, on kind of Warrior's Heart, like I know we, we were talking in the car, you know, you've had, you had a few friends die in combat, you had more friends die to suicide, and now is, is the era of people dying from like service-related cancers and that sort of thing.
But, um, I guess, what, what do you want to say about like s- about Warrior's Heart and that program and kinda, like what went on there that, that helped you move forward?
Well, one, I'll say because they only service veterans, first responders, law enforcement, so like those are all culturally job professions where it's considered being a bitch to ask for help.
Coming to the realization that you need help, like don't be scared to ask for help.
And if you go there, or some institution like that where it's servicing people who've had the same work background as you, you don't have to worry about like ...
My fear was I was gonna end up in some rehab center where it's like a bunch of like trust fund babies or rich dudes' wives that got a botched boob job and they're now they're addicted to pills, and like I didn't want anything to do with any of that.
It was like I at least want to be surrounded by people that I know served so we all have something in common, 'cause I'm not a very open person, and I was very closed off at this point in my life, and I knew that I had a lot I needed to get out or it was gonna consume me.
Uh, I will say Warrior's Heart does a very good job of putting you in an environment where as a f- service member, whether law enforcement, first responder, you feel comfortable and you feel surrounded by people who care, who've also been there and done that.
Uh, and I think that helps dramatically, um, 'cause it's not easy to open up about inner demons at all, uh, or to even admit you have a problem.
Yeah, I mean, and that's, uh, again, keep bringing up Josh, uh, obviously 'cause he's a mutual friend.
He's like, you know, it, he's like, "I didn't wanna talk to some fucking old lady therapist who has no idea what it's like to..." He, he's like, he's like, "I don't even talk to, like w- I barely talk to my buddies about this shit."
Like, "What makes you think I'm gonna wanna talk to you about it?" So I would imagine that, you know, having like-minded people that actually did the job and walked the walk, it makes it, um, like you said, I guess more comfortable and, you know, okay.
It makes it more okay for you to, to talk about it, 'cause they understand it.
And, and so it, it creates an environment where I feel like they have a higher success rate because of that.
Whereas if you took everyone who has gone to Warrior's Heart in the last, I don't know, 10 years, and you just sent them to some civilian rehab place, I'd be willing to bet there'd be a dramatically higher failure percentage of guys going through those programs.
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