Counter Extremism Perspectives
Aug 24, 2026 · 57 min · 10 segments
In this episode, Dr Hans-Jakob Schindler and Alexander Ritzmann are joined by Alexander Price to discuss his three-part CEP blog series on the links between Russia and Italy’s far right, exploring…
Alexander PriceGuest
Hans-Jakob SchindlerHost
Alexander RitzmannHostSo can we just, uh, maybe go through the three blog entries, um, bit by bit and explain, um, a little bit more in depth what the issue here is and how this all ties together?


Um, so Operation 88 was the name of this, uh, um, investigation in Northern Italy that started off looking at the, uh, graffiti on the side of a church but ended up through, uh, uh, you know, intercepted phone calls discovering that there was this, um, mercenary recruitment network operating, uh, and, uh, sending people to, uh, to Donbas.




Um, and then, you know, the, the rest of the post talks about some of the other members of the network, which included, um, uh, veterans, uh, one veteran of Fr- French Foreign Legion who had received military training in Russia.

Um, a, uh, uh, an- another individual who comes up a few times in, in, in the posts, uh, named Olsi Crutani, who, uh, says he r- you know, reportedly is a, a, a, a m- a, a Russian, uh, paratrooper, a former paratrooper who had participated in operations in Chechnya, and he was running and, uh, uh, is still running, um, martial arts centers in Italy.


And the, uh, uh, investigators and prosecutors in the case said that he, uh, that, that the, um, martial arts centers were operating as a front for a, uh, Russian, um, uh, uh, a cultural, uh, a, b- group called Essence of Time, which is a sort of, uh, uh, political group that, that promotes the return of the USSR.




Um, they included, you know, assault rifles, hunting weapons, machine guns, bayonets, tons of ammunition.

And the big surprise was this, um, uh, air-to-air missile that had been manufactured in Qatar.

And so, um, uh, three of the suspects were arrested and, um, it, it really kind of underscores one, uh, uh, of the big threats from the returning, uh, foreign fighters from, uh, uh, from these conflicts is, uh, uh, the threat of, uh, uh, you know, domestic terrorism because, um, the, the, the authorities had also, uh, intercepted a phone conversation in which one of these mercenaries had said, you know, the quote is, uh, "When I return to Italy, I will kill some politicians." So it looked like, you know, they were, um, trying to sell the weapons stockpiles but also had some intentions to, uh, you know, commit some domestic violence when the opportunity might present itself.
So can we just, uh, maybe go through the three blog entries, um, bit by bit and explain, um, a little bit more in depth what the issue here is and how this all ties together?


Um, so Operation 88 was the name of this, uh, um, investigation in Northern Italy that started off looking at the, uh, graffiti on the side of a church but ended up through, uh, uh, you know, intercepted phone calls discovering that there was this, um, mercenary recruitment network operating, uh, and, uh, sending people to, uh, to Donbas.




Um, and then, you know, the, the rest of the post talks about some of the other members of the network, which included, um, uh, veterans, uh, one veteran of Fr- French Foreign Legion who had received military training in Russia.

Um, a, uh, uh, an- another individual who comes up a few times in, in, in the posts, uh, named Olsi Crutani, who, uh, says he r- you know, reportedly is a, a, a, a m- a, a Russian, uh, paratrooper, a former paratrooper who had participated in operations in Chechnya, and he was running and, uh, uh, is still running, um, martial arts centers in Italy.


And the, uh, uh, investigators and prosecutors in the case said that he, uh, that, that the, um, martial arts centers were operating as a front for a, uh, Russian, um, uh, uh, a cultural, uh, a, b- group called Essence of Time, which is a sort of, uh, uh, political group that, that promotes the return of the USSR.




Um, they included, you know, assault rifles, hunting weapons, machine guns, bayonets, tons of ammunition.

And the big surprise was this, um, uh, air-to-air missile that had been manufactured in Qatar.

And so, um, uh, three of the suspects were arrested and, um, it, it really kind of underscores one, uh, uh, of the big threats from the returning, uh, foreign fighters from, uh, uh, from these conflicts is, uh, uh, the threat of, uh, uh, you know, domestic terrorism because, um, the, the, the authorities had also, uh, intercepted a phone conversation in which one of these mercenaries had said, you know, the quote is, uh, "When I return to Italy, I will kill some politicians." So it looked like, you know, they were, um, trying to sell the weapons stockpiles but also had some intentions to, uh, you know, commit some domestic violence when the opportunity might present itself.
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