Oct 20, 2026 · 52 min · 9 segments
US Ambassador Leo Brent Bozell III says South Africa could become one of the biggest economic powers in the world, and every bit as successful as the United States, with the right policies. He points…
Leo Brent Bozell IIIGuestGabriel MakinHostAnd I'd like to get us back to the South Africa, the kind of current issues and concerns in the relationship.
But I think given that you are the representative of America in South Africa, I'd like the first part of our conversation to be focused on your country.
And I think the great place to start is to take us back to... 250 years ago, on July 4th of this year, America celebrated its 250th birthday.
And so why was America created? What happened after the Battle of Yorktown in 1776 that you have this great nation has begun?
Well, let's start with the proposition that the United States of America never should have been by any logical analysis of the situation.
where one looked at on one side the greatest power on the globe, on planet Earth, being Great Britain, Against what? A hodgepodge collection of farmers and dock workers and maybe a couple of professors thrown in for good measure.
But to me, that really was the signature of a nation that was created that said, we are going to be unlike any nation in the history of man.
is going to be a nation that is based on the proposition that it is the individual who's in charge, not the king.
That it's a government of, by, and for the people, and really, truly meant it, so that when the war was over, there was a movement to name George Washington king, which is, what happens anywhere else would have happened.
It is a reason why, if you look at the architecture of Washington, D.C., The United States Capitol is large.
Because even though there are three co-equal branches of government, the emphasis was that it was to be a small federal government.
And I'd like to get us back to the South Africa, the kind of current issues and concerns in the relationship.
But I think given that you are the representative of America in South Africa, I'd like the first part of our conversation to be focused on your country.
And I think the great place to start is to take us back to... 250 years ago, on July 4th of this year, America celebrated its 250th birthday.
And so why was America created? What happened after the Battle of Yorktown in 1776 that you have this great nation has begun?
Well, let's start with the proposition that the United States of America never should have been by any logical analysis of the situation.
where one looked at on one side the greatest power on the globe, on planet Earth, being Great Britain, Against what? A hodgepodge collection of farmers and dock workers and maybe a couple of professors thrown in for good measure.
But to me, that really was the signature of a nation that was created that said, we are going to be unlike any nation in the history of man.
is going to be a nation that is based on the proposition that it is the individual who's in charge, not the king.
That it's a government of, by, and for the people, and really, truly meant it, so that when the war was over, there was a movement to name George Washington king, which is, what happens anywhere else would have happened.
It is a reason why, if you look at the architecture of Washington, D.C., The United States Capitol is large.
Because even though there are three co-equal branches of government, the emphasis was that it was to be a small federal government.
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