Conversations: Health & Resilience
Aug 3, 2026 · 53 min · 14 segments
Nikki Goldstein was in a coma in the ICU at St Vincent's Hospital when she first 'met' Rabbi Eli Schlanger. When she woke, the pair embarked together on a project to share the wisdom, compassion and…
Sarah KanowskiHost
law is do not worship idols, which seems like, you know, a commandment from another era.
Doesn't it sound archaic and arcane in this world? Well, it's really about worshipping one God.
And I've often said to people when talking about the book that you can replace the word God for good.
And I think what Ellie was amazing at is taking these very ancient and somehow antique teachings and making them very modern and i think in our culture we do bow down before false idols we're not talking about golden calves we're talking about the fact that we don't see what is true and real and what's in front of us until we really stop and focus i i really think that's about seeing the miracles hiding in plain sight
As you began talking about this law, you know, as you just said then, instead of God, you could say good.
Did you and he have the same vision of God, of this source that this law is kind of around, do you think?
I think he had a lifetime of being steeped in God, and I was very new to it and quite awkward.
And when I started to talk to Ellie and really understand the teachings, the wisdom and the beauty and the ancientness of it started to strike me as something profound and beautiful and relevant.
On the face of it, the second law, do not blaspheme, also seems to belong to the world of golden calves.
there's this concept called Lashon Hara, which is the evil tongue, and it's about gossip.
You know, the keyboard warriors sitting anonymously at home saying awful things to people.
And in fact, funnily enough, Nick Cave recently said he and his wife Susie, they're not Jewish, they're practicing Christians, but they also practice Lashon Hara.
And they say that, you know, since they've been practicing it, it's really enhanced their lives.
law is do not worship idols, which seems like, you know, a commandment from another era.
Doesn't it sound archaic and arcane in this world? Well, it's really about worshipping one God.
And I've often said to people when talking about the book that you can replace the word God for good.
And I think what Ellie was amazing at is taking these very ancient and somehow antique teachings and making them very modern and i think in our culture we do bow down before false idols we're not talking about golden calves we're talking about the fact that we don't see what is true and real and what's in front of us until we really stop and focus i i really think that's about seeing the miracles hiding in plain sight
As you began talking about this law, you know, as you just said then, instead of God, you could say good.
Did you and he have the same vision of God, of this source that this law is kind of around, do you think?
I think he had a lifetime of being steeped in God, and I was very new to it and quite awkward.
And when I started to talk to Ellie and really understand the teachings, the wisdom and the beauty and the ancientness of it started to strike me as something profound and beautiful and relevant.
On the face of it, the second law, do not blaspheme, also seems to belong to the world of golden calves.
there's this concept called Lashon Hara, which is the evil tongue, and it's about gossip.
You know, the keyboard warriors sitting anonymously at home saying awful things to people.
And in fact, funnily enough, Nick Cave recently said he and his wife Susie, they're not Jewish, they're practicing Christians, but they also practice Lashon Hara.
And they say that, you know, since they've been practicing it, it's really enhanced their lives.
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