Confronting Christianity with Rebecca McLaughlin
Aug 11, 2026 · 45 min · 10 segments
Kyle Worley and Rebecca McLaughlin are joined by author Rachel Gilson to talk about why God cares about who we sleep with. Use code **TREASURE** and get 30% off "Storing Up Treasure" by Kyle Bjerga…
Rachel GilsonGuestKyle WorleyHost
Rebecca McLaughlinHostI'm having a similar experience, though I did find you more compelling before we started recording than I think Rebecca did on her first encounter with you, for the record.
People who are directly involved... or experience same-sex attraction directly, you would expect for them to have a vested interest in caring about this.
I mean, one, even if you don't experience same-sex attraction, so many of us have people in our lives who do.
So many of us have people who, in one way or another, either identify as LGBT or experience same-sex attraction, people we care about.
either at work or at school or in our families, right? So it doesn't have to be internally personal for it to be personal for us.
I think another factor is more and more people are clued into the fact that it's often been hard to be a member of the LGBT community Now, that's obviously, it's a little different in 2022 than it was, you know, in 1992.
People are sensitive to the fact that it's often been hard in many ways and are excited about the idea of it becoming a better place, you know, to live as one's quote-unquote authentic self.
Now, you can quibble with what an authentic self really is, but that idea is so firmly embedded in in our cultural context.
And the LGBT movement seems to many like a natural overflow of that already entrenched value.
Rebecca, when you hear the phrase authentic self, because I think we should stay there for a second because we are talking about persons and their understanding of themselves and then how we understand and interpret them and what grid we use.
Because when we think about the question, why do we care about the sexual lives of the people around us? Or why does God care about us? who people sleep with, we are asking a question of like, really, who gets to determine who is and how they exist in the world? So when you hear the phrase authentic self, where does that register with you or any part of the conversation so far when you explore these issues? And somebody goes, well, why should you care Who I am.
And why would God care who I am and why would it matter what he has to say about that? What's your initial like question to them or response to that question?
It's super interesting because right now today, there's a very prevalent and many ways deeply modern belief that most of our contemporaries hold, which is that my authentic self is fundamentally good.
I'm having a similar experience, though I did find you more compelling before we started recording than I think Rebecca did on her first encounter with you, for the record.
People who are directly involved... or experience same-sex attraction directly, you would expect for them to have a vested interest in caring about this.
I mean, one, even if you don't experience same-sex attraction, so many of us have people in our lives who do.
So many of us have people who, in one way or another, either identify as LGBT or experience same-sex attraction, people we care about.
either at work or at school or in our families, right? So it doesn't have to be internally personal for it to be personal for us.
I think another factor is more and more people are clued into the fact that it's often been hard to be a member of the LGBT community Now, that's obviously, it's a little different in 2022 than it was, you know, in 1992.
People are sensitive to the fact that it's often been hard in many ways and are excited about the idea of it becoming a better place, you know, to live as one's quote-unquote authentic self.
Now, you can quibble with what an authentic self really is, but that idea is so firmly embedded in in our cultural context.
And the LGBT movement seems to many like a natural overflow of that already entrenched value.
Rebecca, when you hear the phrase authentic self, because I think we should stay there for a second because we are talking about persons and their understanding of themselves and then how we understand and interpret them and what grid we use.
Because when we think about the question, why do we care about the sexual lives of the people around us? Or why does God care about us? who people sleep with, we are asking a question of like, really, who gets to determine who is and how they exist in the world? So when you hear the phrase authentic self, where does that register with you or any part of the conversation so far when you explore these issues? And somebody goes, well, why should you care Who I am.
And why would God care who I am and why would it matter what he has to say about that? What's your initial like question to them or response to that question?
It's super interesting because right now today, there's a very prevalent and many ways deeply modern belief that most of our contemporaries hold, which is that my authentic self is fundamentally good.
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