From Childhood Dreams to Broadway: Ben Bogen's Journey

But would you say, like, I guess, like, do you feel like you had sage fry as a kid? Or was it more just anxiety, like ADHD, brain fog, for better or worse? That sort of stuff.

I mean, I was scared that first time.

That first time they were like, you have to learn this paragraph of a song.

Paragraph? What am I, an English class? This verse.

You

have to learn this verse.

And I remember I was scared because it was just the unknown.

I had never...

I had never done that before.

It's vulnerable.

It's scary.

But like, I grew up in a different time.

It was like 2002.

So it was kind of in that like...

How do I say this? It was kind of in that like bully the children until they just do it era.

Hey, we love forceful parenting, guys.

Like,

you know what I mean? It was kind of before the gentle parenting era.

Yep.

It was kind of before the like... let's all talk about therapy online 24-7 era.

So it was just like, you just do it.

Yeah.

But I did drop out of soccer.

I was like supposed to do it and I didn't even do the first, you know, I was about to say the first rehearsal, the first soccer rehearsal.

I didn't even do it because I was like, I threw a fit.